|00:00:00||TROOPS AND WAVING IT AND SAYING THAT SUPPORTS MY POLICY IN X, Y, OR Z IS A TRUE REFUGE FOR SKOUND RELS IN THIS USE OF THE PRESIDENCY.|
|00:00:11||AND OF COURSE IF IT GOES TOO FAR AND THEY JUST RUN OVER THE CONGRESS AS SOME PRESIDENTS HAVE IN THE LAST GENERATION, THEN I THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET OUT THE IMPEACHMENT RESOLUTIONS AND SAY, THUS, YOU WILL NOT GO FURTHER, BECAUSE IT' S VERY CLEAR IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES THAT UNLESS YOU' RE IN A DEFENSIVE MODE WHERE YOU' RE ATTACKED AND MUST IMMEDIATELY RESPOND, YOU NEED TO CONSULT THE CONGRESS.|
|00:00:37||AND AS YOU SUGGESTED, THE EARLY PRECEDENTS ARE QUITE CLEAR.|
|00:00:40||AND PRESIDENT WASHINGTON, WHO COMMANDED THE REVOLUTIONARY ARMY AND KNEW AS THE FIRST PRESIDENT THAT WHATEVER HE DID WAS SETTING PRECEDENCE FOR FUTURE PRESIDENTS AND JEFFERSON, AS YOU WILL RECALL WAS HIS SECRETARY OF STATE.|
|00:00:57||DORNAN: THAT' S RIGHT.|
|00:01:02||HORN: AND JEFFERSON WAS VICE PRESIDENT UNDER WASHINGTON.|
|00:01:04||SO WHEN WASHINGTON WANTED TO DEAL WITH AN INDIAN TRIBE SITUATION WHICH WAS THE CASE IN HIS TIME, HE WENT TO CONGRESS.|
|00:01:13||AND CONGRESS GAVE THAT AUTHORITY.|
|00:01:15||AND THAT ALSO HAPPENED WITH ADAMS|
Mr. HORN. Well, it is clear the President does not have that power, and only a rogue and a scoundrel would let a President have that power. And that is why Congress has to stand up, debate this one way or the other, and either by a majority vote give the President the authority in a special circumstance or deny the President the authority.
As you suggest, Mr. Dornan, the bit of support our troops and waving it and saying that supports my policy in X, Y, or Z, is a true refuge for scoundrels and a misuse of the Presidency. And, of course, if it goes too far, and they just run over the Congress, as some Presidents have in the last generation, then I think somebody needs to get out the impeachment resolutions and say, thus, you will not go farther.
It is very clear in the whole history of the United States that unless we are in a defensive mode, where we are attacked and must immediately respond, the President needs to consult the Congress. And as the gentleman suggested, the early precedents are quite clear. President Washington, who had commanded the revolutionary army, and knew, as the first President, that whatever he did was setting precedence for future Presidents, and Jefferson, as the gentleman will recall was his Secretary of State.