| 00:00:00 | IT'S ABOUT 90 DAYS AND THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT ATROCITIES INSTEAD OF SORTING MOPPING UP THAT THEY HAVE BEEN. |
| 00:00:08 | AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A POLICYMAKER. |
| 00:00:12 | MY JOB IS CAMERAS TEND TO FOLLOW ME WHERE I GO, SO WE FIGURED LET'S BRING THEM ALL TO THE SOUTH SUDAN. |
| 00:00:21 | BUT MOSTLY WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND WHAT WE SAY TO SENATOR LUGAR AND SENATOR KERRY AND SPEAKER PELOSI AND CERTAINLY TO THE PRESIDENT WAS OBVIOUSLY WHAT THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE ITS DIPLOMACY, ROBUST, INTRICATE, DIPLOMACY, BUT IT ALSO HAS TO BE DONE QUICKLY. |
| 00:00:40 | AND IF WERE GOING TO AVOID WHAT WE HAVE SEEN HAPPEN TWICE BEFORE WITH THE SAME PLAYERS IN THE NORTH-SOUTH AND THEREFORE, WE CAN'T JUST SIT BACK AND THINK WELL, IF WE JUST LET IT PLAY OUT, MAYBE THIS TIME IT WILL BE BETTER. |
| 00:00:59 | THERE'S SO MANY THINGS AT STAKE, INCLUDING OIL. |
| 00:01:02 | SO WE JUST GOT OUR POSITION IS REQUIRED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP ASSIST, INCLUDING CREATING PUBLIC WILL AND SOME SUPPORT TO TRY AND GET THIS OUT ENOUGH TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY, THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD ARE WATCHING AND AWARE AND KNOW THAT IF WE DO NOTHING, THAT THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COULD DIE, INNOCENT PEOPLE. |
| 00:01:32 | AND THAT'S OUR MESSAGE TO THEM AND ASKED WHAT WE COULD DO TO HELP GET THAT MESSAGE AND HELP THEM MOVE FORWARD. |
| 00:01:39 | >> BUT THERE SEVERAL TIMES NOW. |
| 00:01:41 | JOHN, YOU'VE BEEN ENGAGED IN SUDAN FOR A LONG TIME. |
| 00:01:44 | IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS TO IMPLEMENT THE CPA. |
| 00:01:48 | WHY JUST NOW? |
| 00:01:49 | AND WHAT KIND OF CHANGE HAD THERE NOT BEEN ROBUST DIPLOMACY AS THERE WERE OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS? |
| 00:01:55 | WORDED THE BALL GET DROPPED? |
| 00:01:57 | THE >> THE BALL TO DROP THE DATA AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED, JANUARY JANUARY 2005. |
| 00:02:03 | A TREMENDOUS, EXTRAORDINARY ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, ALONG WITH THEIR PARTNERS FROM AFRICA AND EUROPE TO SECURE A PEACE DEAL THAT EVERYONE THOUGHT WAS IMPOSSIBLE, JUST THE DEAL BETWEEN THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. |
| 00:02:19 | 2.5 MILLION PEOPLE DIED. AND AS WE DO SO OFTEN, WITH SORT OF THE BIGGEST ACCOMPLISHMENT SURROUNDED AS WE GO ON TO THE NEXT THING. |
| 00:02:30 | AND WHEN THE PEACE DEAL WAS SIGNED AND WE LEFT THE SUDANESE TO THEIR OWN DEVICES, FOR THE LAST FOUR AND A HALF YEARS WE'VE SEEN SLOWLY, STEADILY RATCHETING BACK ON THE COMMITMENTS THAT WERE MADE, HISTORIC COMMITMENT THAT WERE MADE IN THIS DEAL. |
| 00:02:44 | AND SO, AS GEORGE SAID, THE WAKE OF THE CALL FOR BETTER OR WORSE CAME ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO IN WASHINGTON AND IN THE U. |
| 00:02:55 | N. SECURITY COUNCIL, PEOPLE STARTED SAYING GOD, IF WE DON'T URGENTLY ATTEND TO THIS, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THAT EXTRAORDINARY -- THAT HISTORIC DEAL OF THE SOUTH WILL BE IN INFERNO AGAIN. |
| 00:03:07 | >> LET ME ASK YOU BECAUSE YOU WENT IN 2004 BUT SUDAN -- 2005. |
| 00:03:12 | AND YOU'VE BEEN TWICE NOW WITH NBC I THINK. |
| 00:03:18 | >> AND ONCE WITH THE U. |
| 00:03:19 | N. BEFORE CARTOON. |
| 00:03:20 | >> THAT'S A FUN TRIP. |
| 00:03:23 | >> HOW DO YOU SEE THE CURRENT DIPLOMACY WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA OFFERING INCENTIVE TO THE NORTH -- THE GOVERNMENT TO IMPROVE U. |
| 00:03:36 | S. RELATIONS, TO UNFREEZE ASSETS, TO DO OTHER KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE WANTED BY THE NORTH IF THERE'S A PEACE DEAL. |
| 00:03:44 | WHERE DOES THAT LEAD, FOR EXAMPLE, THEREFORE, WE BOTH WERE? |
| 00:03:50 | >> I THINK THAT IT THEREFORE HAS TO BE PAINTED INTO THAT EXACT SAME NEGOTIATION. |
| 00:03:54 | IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT CAN BE IF YOU PLAY A LITTLE NICER GOING TO GET SOME NICE CARROTS. |
| 00:03:58 | THERE HAS TO BE SOME REAL, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT. |
| 00:04:04 | IN ANY NEGOTIATION NOT THAT THIS IS, IT IS A NEGOTIATION. |
| 00:04:08 | BOTH SIDES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE. |
| 00:04:10 | THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE BORDER, YOU KNOW, THAT BOTH SIDES WANT THIS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE NEITHER OF THEM ARE PARTICULARLY HAPPY WHEN THEY FINALLY DECIDE ON IT. |
| 00:04:21 | THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE ARE GOING TO BE DISPUTED. |
| 00:04:24 | AND IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE EXACTLY WHAT ONE GROUP IS HAPPY OR THE OTHER GROUP IS HAPPY. |
| 00:04:29 | BUT IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE NEGOTIATION. |
| 00:04:33 | I MEAN LOOK, YOU CAN DO THIS EITHER WAY. |
| 00:04:35 | WE CAN PICK THIS UP IN FIVE OR SIX MONTHS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS IF NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE CAN BE KILLED. |
| 00:04:44 | AND WE CAN MARK THIS MESS UP OR WE CAN DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO STOP BEFORE IT HAPPENS. |
| 00:04:49 | THERE'S AN ACTUAL OPPORTUNITY TO STOP IT. |
| 00:04:51 | AND THAT REQUIRES MAKING SOME HARD CHOICES, INCLUDING DIPLOMACY THAT MEANS WORKING WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE SO SAVORY. |
| 00:04:58 | AND THAT'S A HARD THING TO DO. |
| 00:05:00 | IT'S CERTAINLY NOT AN EASY THING POLITICALLY TO DO. |
| 00:05:04 | BUT BOTH SIDES, MEANING BOTH SIDES OF OUR POLITICAL SPEC DRUM ARE WILLING TO START TO TALK ABOUT GRAY AREAS. |
| 00:05:12 | I THINK THAT THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET TO MOVE FORWARD. |
| 00:05:14 | >> JOHN, IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT SCENARIO, WHO'S GOING TO FIT UNDER PRESSURE? |
| 00:05:21 | WHO WILL |
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