| 00:00:01 | CASE. |
| 00:00:03 | >> THE GENTLEMAN, MR. |
| 00:00:06 | CASSIDY. |
| 00:00:07 | GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK ON BOARD. |
| 00:00:09 | >> MR. MANN, ARE YOU AGAINST ALL OFFSHORE DRILLING, EVEN THE NEAR SHORE NON-DEEP WATER DRILLING THAT MR. |
| 00:00:20 | MANN SPEAKS OF? >> NO, WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO OFFSHORE DRILLING, BUT WE BELIEVE -- >> YOU THINK THERE SHOULD BE A MORATORIUM FOR THE NEAR SHORE AS WELL AS THE OCS? |
| 00:00:32 | >> YES, UNTIL THIS SPILL -- >> LET ME ASK YOU, I THOUGHT MR. |
| 00:00:37 | MANN SPOKE ELOQUENTLY OF HOW THEY'RE REALLY DIFFERENT ANIMAL'S? |
| 00:00:51 | >> AFTER THE SECRETARY, OF COURSE, IMPLIED THAT THEY ENDORSE THE MORATORIUM, THE EIGHT OF THEM WERE FROM AK DEEM YA, SENT OUT A RATHER SCATHING REPORT OF THAT, AND ONE OF THE QUOTES IS A BLANK MORATORIUM IS NOT THE ANSWER. |
| 00:01:07 | IT WILL NOT MEASURABLY REDUCE RISK FURTHER AND IT WILL HAVE A LASTING IMPACT ON THE NATION'S ECONOMY WHICH MAY BE GREATER THAN THAT OF THE OIL SPILL. |
| 00:01:18 | SO IT WILL NOT MEASURABLY REDUCE RISK FURTHER AND HAVE A LASTING IMPACT UPON THE NATION'S ECONOMY. |
| 00:01:34 | WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW THAT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT WOULD I AMMPLY THEIR MORATORIUM WOULD NOT BE HELPFUL? |
| 00:01:45 | >> THEY MAY HAVE MORE TO COMMENT ON THE ENGINEERING ASPECTS THAN THE ECONOMIC ASPECTS. |
| 00:01:49 | I MEAN, WE ARE CERTAINLY SENSITIVE TO THE ECONOMIC PART. |
| 00:01:53 | >> FROM LOUISIANA, YOU DON'T NEED A STUDY TO KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A STAKE IN THE HEART OF LOUISIANA'S COASTAL ECONOMY. |
| 00:02:03 | >> AS IS THE OIL SPILL, SIR. |
| 00:02:04 | >> IT TURNS OUT IN LOUISIANA, AND THOUGH MY HEART BLEEDS, FOR THE TOURIST INDUSTRY, FOR THE FISHERMEN, IT IS AWFUL. |
| 00:02:16 | IT'S INTERESTING WE HAD THE DIRECTOR OF THE OYSTER ASSOCIATION WHO LIKEWISE GOT EMOTIONAL BECAUSE HE SAID HE WAS ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THE MORATORIUM BECAUSE AS TIME PASSED WHEN FISHING WAS BAD, PEOPLE WORKED ON THE RIGSZ, AND WHEN RIGS WERE DOWN, THEY WORKED ON FISHING, AND THIS TAKES CARE OF BOTH. |
| 00:02:35 | SO, AGAIN, WHAT DO YOU KNOW THAT THESE GUYS DON'T KNOW AS REGARDS, AGAIN, THE MORATORIUM WILL NOT MEASURABLY REDUCE RISK FURTHER AND WILL HAVE A LASTING IMPACT, ET CETERA? |
| 00:02:46 | >> I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT, THAT IT -- >> IS THERE A FACT HERE? |
| 00:02:53 | LET ME JUST ASK -- I'M A TEACHER, SO WHEN I SPEAK TO MY MEDICAL STUDENTS, I SAY, IS THAT A BELIEF SYSTEM OR DO YOU HAVE A FACT UPON WHICH YOU BASE THIS? |
| 00:03:01 | >> THE FACT THAT WE'RE BASING THIS ON IS THAT THIS IS THE WORST ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHE THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER ENDURED. |
| 00:03:11 | >> LET ME PAUSE FOR A SECOND BECAUSE I HAVE LIMITED TIME. |
| 00:03:14 | ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THE CHAIRMAN VERY RESPECTFULLY. |
| 00:03:17 | THE CHAIRMAN'S QUESTION IMPLIED, MR. |
| 00:03:20 | LETO, THAT THE BP'S ACTIONS -- I DON'T THINK WE CAN EVER GUARANTEE THAT WHEN SOMEONE CUTS CORNERS AND MAKES DECISIONS WHICH EVERYONE ELSE WOULD CONDEMN THAT WE CAN AVOID AN ACCIDENT. |
| 00:03:31 | AS A PHYSICIAN, I CAN TELL YOU IF SOMEBODY PRACTICES UNSAFE MEDICINE, WE END UP WITH A BAD OUTCOME. |
| 00:03:40 | THAT'S NOT AN INDICTMENT OF SAFE PRACTICES, IT'S AN INDICTMENT OF THAT PARTICULAR PRACTICE. |
| 00:03:43 | WE HAVE AN OIL SPILL, BUT WE ALSO HAVE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED ALREADY FACTORS WHICH, IF ANY ONE OF WHICH HAD BEEN DONE CORRECTLY, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED. |
| 00:03:53 | ARE WE GOING TO INDICT ALL THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE DOING IT SAFELY, ACCORDING TO PROTOCOLS, BEST PRACTICES BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF SOMEONE WHO -- OR AN ENTITY WHICH DID NOT DO SO? |
| 00:04:05 | >> WELL, THIS IS NOT AN ACTION THAT THE ENVIRONMENT GROUP IS TAKING, THIS IS AN ACTION TAKEN BY THE ADMINISTRATION, BUT I DO THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE AFTER SUCH A CALAMITY. |
| 00:04:18 | >> I GUESS I'M NOT GETTING THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. |
| 00:04:21 | >> THEY WOULDN'T HAVE PUT THE CHALLANGER, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE PUT THE SPACE SHUTTLE BACK UP IN THE AIR WITHIN THREE TO SIX MONTHS OF THAT FIRST DISASTER. |
| 00:04:28 | >> BUT WE CERTAINLY STILL FLY AIRPLANES AFTER THERE IS A BAD ACCIDENT. |
| 00:04:38 | MS. BRYANT, I'VE GOT TO ASK THIS. |
| 00:04:41 | DID YOU DELIBERATELY ENTER A POGO AFTER THE CARTOON CHARACTER? |
| 00:04:45 | >> IT WAS IN OUR MIND WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE ACRONYM. |
| 00:04:49 | >> I THOUGHT THAT. |
| 00:04:50 | >> GLAD YOU ENJOYED THAT. |
| 00:04:53 | >> BY THE WAY, I APPLAUD YOUR JUST STATEMENTS REGARDING TRANSPARENCY. |
| 00:04:59 | I THINK THAT WAS WONDERFUL. |
| 00:05:05 | MR. |
| 00:05:07 | MALEY, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE IMPACT OF JOBS IN LOUISIANA. |
| 00:05:14 | ANY COMMENT THAT MR. |
| 00:05:16 | MANN SAYS, MAYBE JOBS WILL BE LOST, MAYBE NOT? |
| 00:05:19 | >> I THINK THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A TRANSIENT IMPACT AND A PERMANENT IMPACT, FROM DAY ONE OF THE SPILL, I'VE SEEN JOURNALISTS TRYING TO COMPARE IT, TRYING TO FORCE IT INTO AN EXXON VALDEZ TEMPLATE. |
| 00:05:38 | THIS IS NOT A VALDEZ SPILL. |
| 00:05:40 | THIS IS A MUCH LIGHTER GRADE CRUDE, 50 MILES OFFSHORE. |
| 00:05:45 | IT TOOK IT A MONTH TO MAKE IT TO SHORE, AND ONCE IT'S IN THE MARSH, IT'S A TERRIBLE THING, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO MINIMIZE IT, BUT MOTHER NATURE HAS WAYS TO TAKE CARE OF IT. |
| 00:06:01 | AND MY EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT IN A FEW MONTHS, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND SOME IMPACT. |
| 00:06:08 | IN A YEAR, POSSIBLY. |
| 00:06:09 | AFTER A FEW YEARS, I'M NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST, BUT MY THINKING WOULD BE THAT IT'S -- MOTHER NATURE IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT. |
| 00:06:21 | WHEN THESE RIGS MOVE, THOSE JOBS WILL GO WITH THEM, THE PEOPLE WILL GO OFF TO OTHER THINGS. |
| 00:06:29 | THE INDUSTRY BARELY SURVIVED WHAT WE WENT THROUGH IN 1986 JUST BECAUSE OF LOW OIL PRICES. |
| 00:06:34 | BUT WHEN THESE RIGS GO OVERSEAS TO OTHER MARKETS, IT COSTS SO MUCH TO MOVE THEM BACK THAT THEY MAY JUST BE GONE FOR GOOD. |
| 00:06:44 | >> OKAY. >> I YIELD BACK. |
| 00:06:47 | THANK YOU. >> THE CHAIR INTENDS TO ADJOURN THE COMMITTEE HERE SHORTLY BUT I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO ASK. |
| 00:06:54 | MR. |
| 00:06:55 | MALEY, I BELIEVE YOU WERE HERE THIS MORNING WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION TO THE ACTING -- OR THE INTERIM DIRECTOR, WHATEVER HIS TITLE IS, AS TO THE CONFUSION THAT EXISTED WITH REGARD TO THE MORATORIUM ON WELLS OF 500 FEET OR LESS. |
| 00:07:11 | HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME CONFUSION AS IT RELATD RELATED TO THE MORATORIUM, AND HE INDICATED THERE WAS A MEETING LAST WEEK AND HE THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD CREATED A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WAS INTENDED WITH REGARDS TO THE KINDS OF WELL ACTIVITY THAT YOU'RE ENGAGED IN. |
| 00:07:30 | DO YOU CONCUR WITH THIS STATEMENT THIS MORNING? |
| 00:07:33 | >> I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. |
| 00:07:35 | I MAY BE SPEAKING OUT OF SCHOOL. |
| 00:07:37 | I THINK THERE WAS A MEETING UP HERE WITH A GROUP OF THE RIG CONTRACTORS, THE SHALLOW WATER RIG CONTRACTORS, AND THEY HAVE -- THEY MAY HAVE ACHIEVED SOME CLARITY, AND MMS HAS PUT OUT AN NTL THAT -- >> NTL -- >> I'M SORRY. |
| 00:08:05 | NOTICE TO LET. |
| 00:08:08 | >> NTL IS WHAT? |
| 00:08:09 | >> NTL IS NOTICE TO LESSEES. |
| 00:08:13 | THAT'S HOW MMS COMMUNICATES. |
| 00:08:15 | >> I UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE A PUBLIC OUT THERE THAT'S LISTENING. |
| 00:08:20 | >> AND THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT DEALT STRICTLY WITH SUB BOPs AND 500-PLUS FEET OF WATER AND REQUIREMENTS ON THOSE AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS ON ALL OPERATORS -- >> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS AS FAR AS PRODUCTION WELLS, WHICH WRUR YOU'RE ENGAGED IN, IF I'M CORRECT, IT'S NOT CLEAR? |
| 00:08:45 | >> WE'RE CONTINUING TO PRODUCE, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. |
| 00:08:48 | >> RIGHT. >> THE PROBLEM IS THE PLANNING AND THE LOGISTICS OF PICKING UP A RIG TO GO WORK ON OUR WELLS. |
| 00:08:56 | AND AT ONE POINT WE HAD A PERMIT. |
| 00:08:59 | IT WAS VERBALLY RESCINDED, AND WE'RE KIND OF IN LIMBO RIGHT NOW. |
| 00:09:03 | WE THINK WE'VE SATISFIED WHAT MR. |
| 00:09:04 | ABBY SAID THE REQUIREMENTS WERE, TO HAVE A PERMIT APPROVED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT IN HAND, AS FAR AS I KNOW. |
| 00:09:12 | >> I WANT TO GET TO ANOTHER ONE, BUT MS. |
| 00:09:16 | BRYANT, THE SECRETARY HAS OBVIOUSLY MADE A SIGNIFICANT EFFORT HERE, AND WE'RE VETTING IT AND WE'LL MAKE OUR OWN CHANGES. |
| 00:09:25 | YOU MORE OR LESS KIND OF INDICATED SOME ADDITIONAL |
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