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00:00:02 THE ATHEIST THAT ARE WATCHING WILL GET MAD AT ME.
00:00:07 >> Host: WE ALL HAVE ATHEIST FRIENDS.
00:00:09 [LAUGHTER] >> Guest: SOME OF ME IS ATHEIST TOO.
00:00:13 I THINK THE QUESTION IS, PEOPLE GET ANNOYED WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ATHEIST AS A RELIGION BECAUSE OF COURSE ATHEISTS REJECT GOD.
00:00:25 THIS IS FALSE TO SAY RELIGION IS ABOUT GOD.
00:00:28 THIS IS ONE REASON WHY ATHEIST TO WHO CRITICIZE RELIGIONS AND SAY THERE IS NO GOD AND RELIGION IS STUPID IS WRONG TO BECAUSE THERE ARE RELIGIONS ABOUT GODLIKE BUDDHISM SO YOU HAVE BEEN CRITICIZED BUDDHISM.
00:00:40 I THINK THE WAY I THINK ABOUT RELIGION IF I SAY TO PEOPLE WHO LOVE THE YANKEES BASEBALL, IS THAT A RELIGION OR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SCIENTOLOGY, IS THAT A RELIGION?
00:00:53 I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FAMILY RESEMBLANCE QUESTION.
00:00:57 YOU HAVE TO SAY OKAY DO THEY HAVE A CODE OF ETHICS?
00:01:00 DO THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE AND?
00:01:01 DO THEY HAVE A CULTIST RITUAL THEY FOLLOW?
00:01:07 DO THEY HAVE A CREED WHERE THEY ARTICULATE BELIEFS ABOUT THE SUPERNATURAL AND ABOUT THE AFTERLIFE AND THE CREATION ETC.
00:01:16 IF YOU LOOK AT ATHEISTS ON THAT SCORE THEY FALL AWAY FROM RELIGION ON COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY DON'T TEND TO, PEOPLE DON'T REALLY GO TO ATHEIST ON CHURCH ON SUNDAY MORNING.
00:01:26 >> Host: ALTHOUGH THEY WERE HUMAN GROUPS AND MORE AND MORE SO.
00:01:29 >> Guest: IN BOSTON WHERE I WORK THERE IS A VERY ACTIVE GROUP THAT ARE ACTUALLY CRITICIZED BY OTHER ATHEISTS WERE BEEN TO CHURCH A BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING NERVOUS.
00:01:40 IF YOU LOOK AT THE CREED PART, THERE ARE MORE INTO THEIR CREATIVE REJECTING GOD THAN MOST THEISTS ARE ABOUT AFFIRMING GOD.
00:01:50 SO THEY QUALIFY ON THE CREED INSIDE.
00:01:55 IN THE TERMS OF CULTIST, IS THERE A RITUAL THAT THEY FOLLOW?
00:01:58 NOT SO MUCH. ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME AND DO THEY CELEBRATE BERTRAM RUSSELL BAY?
00:02:02 NOT REALLY BUT THEY ARE STARTING TO GET UP THOSE THINGS LIKE DARWIN DAY FOR EXAMPLE.
00:02:09 AND THEN COMMUNITY NOT SO MUCH IN CODE, ETHICS.
00:02:13 THIS HAS BEEN REALLY EMPHASIZE LATELY BY ATHEIST.
00:02:18 GREG EPSTEIN'S BOOK, GOOD WITHOUT GOD, HE IS SAYING ATHEISTS DO HAVE ETHICS AND THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME AS ALL OTHER PEOPLE'S ETHICS.
00:02:30 >> Host: YOU ARE BASICALLY SAYING YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE A RELIGION IN ORDER TO BE AN ETHICAL PERSON.
00:02:34 >> Guest: RIGHT BUT I THINK HE ALSO WANTS TO SAY AND AN EQUALLY IMPORTANT POINT THAT ATHEISTS ARE ATHEIST ETHICAL?
00:02:43 SO I THINK THAT SOME ATHEISTS ARE RELIGIOUS AND SOME ARE NOT RELIGIOUS.
00:02:49 IT JUST DEPENDS, HOW HARD-CORE THEY ARE ABOUT THEIR FAITH OR THEIR RELIGION OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
00:02:57 >> Host: YOU HAVE LIKENED SOME OF THEM TO FUNDAMENTALISTS AND ALSO SAID THEY ARE ANGRY ATHEIST AND THEY THERE ARE NICE ATHEIST.
00:03:04 >> Guest: RIDE AND I GET IN TROUBLE FOR THAT TOO.
00:03:08 THE FRIENDLY ATHEISTS ARE VERY FRIENDLY TOWARD ME AND THE ANGRY ATHEISTS ARE ANGRY TOWARD ME WHICH WOULDN'T SAY BE SURPRISING.
00:03:17 I THINK ATHEISM IS AN INTERESTING POINT IN AMERICA.
00:03:20 THERE'VE BEEN MOMENTS IN AMERICAN HISTORY INCLUDING AT THE SCOPES TRIAL IN THE 1920s WERE ATHEISM BECAME VISIBLE IN THE 19th CENTURY THERE ARE MOMENTS OF VISIBILITY AFTER THE CIVIL WAR AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE SO IT IS AN INTRIGUING MOMENT WHEN ATHEISTS HAVE SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET CHRISTIANS TALK ABOUT US.
00:03:37 WE WILL TALK FOR OURSELVES.
00:03:38 BUT THERE IS A WAY IN WHICH THEY REALLY DO CHASE AWAY A LOT OF THEIR POTENTIAL SUPPORTERS.
00:03:44 IF YOU LOOK AT SURVEYS ON ATHEISM, IF YOU ASK PEOPLE, DO YOU NOT, DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD OR A HIGHER POWER?
00:03:53 MAYBE 8% OF AMERICANS WILL SAY NOT REALLY.
00:03:56 IF YOU SAY YOU WERE ATHEISTS USUALLY IT IS 1% OF AMERICANS.
00:04:00 WHY THE GAP BETWEEN THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD AND THE PEOPLE WHO CALL THEMSELVES ATHEISTS?
00:04:08 THE REASON ATHEISM IS A BAD RANT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT FRONT ARE JUST SORT OF ANGRY FUNDAMENTALIST.
00:04:15 THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO REMIND YOU OF THE ANNOYING MISSIONARY WHO COMES AND KNOCKS ON YOUR DOOR AND GIVES YOU THIS SCRIPT AND THEY ARE NOT LISTENING TO YOU AND NOT REALLY HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOU.
00:04:28 THEY ARE JUST KIND OF HECTORING YOU.
00:04:30 WE HAVE ALL HAD THAT EXPERIENCE WITH ON THE MENTALIST OR SOMETIMES EVANGELICALS WHO HAVE HARANGUED US AND WE HAVE NOW HAD ATHEISM ALSO BUT THERE ARE FRIENDLY ATHEISTS WHO ARE VERY SECURE IN THEIR VIEW THAT THE GOD PROPOSITION IS NOT ONLY FALSE BUT DANGEROUS AND YET ARE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT RELIGIOUS AIR RELIGIOUS MATTERS IN WAYS THAT MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS AND JEWS CAN OFTEN TALK ABOUT.
00:05:02 >> Host: WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT SO I WANT YOU TO TELL ME WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER YOUR SELF AT THIS MOMENT?
00:05:09 HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE YOURSELF FROM A RELIGIOUS STANDPOINT?
00:05:11 I THINK YOU ARE A TAOIST.
00:05:12 IS THAT TRUE?
00:05:13 >> Guest: I THINK,
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