Homeland Security

Sep 18, 2009

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Michael Chertoff talked about his new book, Homeland Security: Assessing the First Five Years (University of Pennsylvania Press; September 1, 2009). He responded to telephone calls, electronic communications, and questions from students at the Earle Mack School of Law at Drexel University, who participated via Skype from the C-SPAN Civics .. Read More
Michael Chertoff talked about his new book, Homeland Security: Assessing the First Five Years (University of Pennsylvania Press; September 1, 2009). He responded to telephone calls, electronic communications, and questions from students at the Earle Mack School of Law at Drexel University, who participated via Skype from the C-SPAN Civics Bus. Homeland Security covers the long-term approach of the Homeland Security Department, what it has achieved and has yet to do, cybersecurity threats, illegal immigrants and U.S. borders.

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00:00:02 Unidentified Speaker MICHAEL CHERTOFF, IN YOUR NEW BOOK "HOMELAND SECURITY: ASSESSING THE FIRST FIVE YEARS" YOU WRITE ABOUT...
00:00:39 GUEST I THINK THAT IS A CONCERN, AND TO BE HONEST, IT WAS A PREDICTABLE CONCERN EVEN IN THE DAYS AFTER ZAKARIA...
00:01:32 HOST YOU DO NOT WRITE ABOUT THIS IN THE BOOK, BUT DO YOU SEE ANY SIGNS IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION THAT,...
00:01:42 GUEST THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AT THIS POINT SEEMS TO BE CONTINUING LARGELY ALONG THE COURSE THAT WE SET...
00:02:04 GUEST NOT REGULARLY -- DO YOU TALK TO HER REGULARLY JACKSON A A GUEST: NOT REGULATE, BUT WE ARE FRIENDS...
00:02:16 GUEST NOT REGULATE, BUT WE ARE FRIENDS. PRIOR TO 9/11, THE THINK BOARD ABOUT MOST WAS THE TRUCK BOMBS. ...
00:03:07 HOST WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE ARE, THE FIRST THING YOU STRESS IS...
00:03:17 GUEST FROM THE STANDPOINT OF MOMENT SECURITY, IF YOU CANNOT STOP THE ENEMY OVERSEAS, YOU WANT TO STOP THEM...
00:03:55 HOST OUR GUEST IS MICHAEL CHERTOFF, SERVED FROM 2005 THROUGH 2009 AS SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY. THE...
00:04:33 Unidentified Speaker GIVEN THE RECENT DISCLOSURES TO WHICH -- TO THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE FEDERER HAS LIED ABOUT THINGS...
00:05:08 HOST MATTHEW, I'M SORRY, WE LOST YOUR AUDIO. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CONTRACTORS. COULD THEY BE EFFECTIVELY...
00:05:19 HOST OK, THANK YOU.
00:05:23 GUEST THIS HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS. WHEN CONTRACTORS AREN'T AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY OFTEN...
00:06:05 HOST FIRST CALL-UP FOR MICHAEL CHERTOFF, ST. PETERSBURG, FLA., WILLIAM, INDEPENDENT LINE. CALLER: GOOD...
00:06:13 GUEST GOOD MORNING. CALLER: YOU MENTIONED THE SEPTEMBER 10, 2009 MIND-SET. THAT MADE ME NERVOUS. [UNINTELLIGIBLE]...
00:06:40 GUEST I MUST HAVE MISSED THE NEWS REPORT ABOUT THE MISSING TRILLIONS. I DO KNOW THAT IN THE RUN-UP TO SEPTEMBER...
00:07:29 HOST YOUR PREDECESSOR, TOM RIDGE, WROTE IN HIS BOOK, BUT THEN DENIED IT, SAYING THAT THE COLOR-CODED SYSTEM,...
00:07:44 GUEST ACTUALLY, I DO NOT THINK THAT TOM EVER WENT THAT FAR. HE WONDERED WHY SOME ARE MAKING A POLITICAL...
00:09:09 HOST AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN NOW, WHAT YOU THINK OF YOUR TSA?
00:09:14 GUEST I HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH IT FREQUENTLY. I AM IMPRESSED BY THE SCREENERS. I HAVE HAD...
00:09:52 HOST NEXT CALL FOR SECRETARY CHERTOFF, NEW BOOK OUT, GWENN, MICH., MARK, REPUBLICAN. PLEASE, GO AHEAD....
00:10:31 GUEST THE BIGGEST ISSUE NOT BEEN FULLY ADDRESSED BY THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. I DO THINK THEY ARE CONTINUING...
00:11:37 HOST AND THAT IS CHAPTER 8 IN YOUR NEW BOOK. BUT GIVE US A SPECIFIC CYBER SECURITY RISK.
00:11:44 GUEST THERE ARE THREE THINGS THAT WE SEE. THE ONE THAT GETS REPORTED MOST OFTEN IS WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN...
00:13:08 HOST MARK IN GOING MICHIGAN, YOU'VE GOT YOUR VOLUME DOWN I KNOW AND GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION. CALLER:...
00:13:42 HOST WHAT IS THAT IMPORTANT INFORMATION? CALLER: IT IS CALLED THE WEALTHY ELITE. WE HAVE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE...
00:13:59 HOST MR. CHERTOFF, IF THAT MAN HAS INFORMATION TO SHARE, WHERE WOULD YOU RECOMMEND HIMAL TO SEND IT? --...
00:14:10 GUEST I THINK THEY DID THE RIGHT THING BY SENDING IN TO THE FBI. THEY HAVE TO EVALUATE WHETHER THERE IS...
00:14:24 HOST WHAT IS YOUR GENERAL OPINION OF PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT GOVERNMENT WAS INVOLVED IN 9/11?
00:14:31 GUEST I THINK THAT IS GROUPED WITH A HOLOCAUST DENIAL AND THE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT PRESIDENT, WAS NOT BORN...
00:14:53 HOST NEXT CALL FROM NEW JERSEY. CALLER: IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT MOST OF THE PROBLEM WITH IMMIGRATION IN...
00:15:37 GUEST TWO GREAT QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, THE CALLER IS RIGHT, WHEN PEOPLE FOCUS ON ILLEGAL ENTRY BETWEEN...
00:17:16 HOST IN YOUR BOOK YOU RIGHT -- HERE IS A TWEET THAT CAME IN FROM LYNETTE.
00:17:40 GUEST I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT. I CAN TELL YOU, THOUGH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT WE SIGNIFICANTLY REVERSED...
00:18:28 HOST NICOLE AIDAN IS A STUDENT AT THE EARL MACK SCHOOL OF LAW AT DREXEL UNIVERSITY IN PHILADELPHIA. GO...
00:18:54 GUEST A VERY GOOD QUESTION. THE CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT TREATIES ARE THE LAW OF THE LAND, THEREFORE, WHEN...
00:20:17 HOST WHERE ARE YOU DOING TODAY?
00:20:20 GUEST GOING TO GO BACK TO THE OFFICE.
00:20:24 HOST NO, I MEAN, WHAT ARE YOU DOING THESE DAYS?
00:20:29 GUEST HAVE AN ADVISORY -- I HAVE AN ADVISORY SYSTEM THAT I HAVE SET UP WITH A NUMBER OF FORMER COLLEAGUES....
00:20:37 HOST 0 HADEN. -- MICHAEL HADEN.
00:20:44 GUEST MICHAEL HADEN AS WELL AS OTHERS. WE CALL IT THE TRUCK GROUP. I DIVIDE MY TIME BETWEEN SECURITY ADVICE...
00:21:15 GUEST IT WAS A VERY GOOD AND CHALLENGING TIME. IN A VERY PERSONAL WAY, I FELT THE IMPACT OF 9/11 AND I LOST...
00:21:51 HOST CHAPTER 14 --
00:22:17 GUEST THAT IS ONE OF THE GREAT MYTHS OF THE WEST FOR SEVERAL YEARS. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME AS A COMMON SECURITY...
00:23:20 HOST YOU ARE ON THE LINE WITH MICHAEL CHERTOFF, GO AHEAD. CALLER: WOULD YOU PLEASE ALLOW ME A FOLLOW-UP...
00:24:07 HOST WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE BECAUSE WE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING. MR. CHERTOFF, YOU HAVE ADDRESSED...
00:24:14 GUEST CROPS UP FROM TIME TO TIME AND HAS BEEN LOOKED AT THOROUGHLY BY EVERYBODY. PEOPLE WITNESSED THE PLANES...
00:24:35 HOST KEVIN BEEN CO GOES TO THE LOSS WILL AT DREXEL UNIVERSITY. KEVIN, PLEASE GO AHEAD. CALLER: HOW MUCH...
00:25:03 GUEST EVERY PRESIDENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN HAS ALWAYS ABIDED BY COURT ORDERS, WOULD YOU...
00:25:47 HOST HERE IS A TWEED. c
00:26:03 GUEST DHS DID NOT DO THAT MUCH WITH THE PATRIOT ACT. IT WAS MORE DIRECTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND...
00:27:17 HOST: SECURITY -- "HOMELAND SECURITY: ASSESSING THE FIRST FIVE YEARS" BEFORE WORD IS BY LEE HAMILTON. THE...
00:27:37 GUEST I DID NOT REALIZE TOM WAS WRITING HIS BOOK. MY BOOK IS NOT A MEMOIR. FOR THOSE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE...
00:28:06 HOST JOHNSON CITY, TENN., DAVID, YOU ARE ON WITH MICHAEL CHERTOFF. CALLER: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SERVING...
00:28:29 GUEST THERE ARE TERRORISTS WHO HAVE BECOME DERADICALIZED OR HAVE HAD A CHANGE OF HEART. I DO NOT KNOW THE...
00:29:57 HOST BACK TO PHILADELPHIA AT THE TRUXEL LAW SCHOOL, RAFAH D.L. AS A LAW STUDENT. PLEASE GO AHEAD, RAFAH...
00:30:22 GUEST YOU HAVE TO BREAK INTO TWO QUESTIONS. ONE IS A MORE TACTICAL MATTER, ONE IS TO START BUILDING A MISSILE...
00:31:47 HOST ORLANDO, FLA., NELSON, A DEMOCRAT, HELLO. NELSON IS GONE, IT APPEARS. WE WILL MOVE ON TO GEORGIA, ...
00:32:40 HOST YOU WRITE IN YOUR BOOK -- YOU CALL THIS A GENERATIONAL CHALLENGE. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
00:32:52 GUEST THE 21ST CENTURY IS A GIVEN KIND OF WARFARE OF THEM THE 20TH CENTURY. WE'RE USED TO HAVE BEEN MASSED...
00:33:52 HOST DO YOU THINK THE WAY THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY IS ORGANIZED TODAY IS BETTER THAN IT WAS, AND HAVE...
00:34:01 GUEST IT IS CLEARLY BETTER AND THERE IS MORE SHARING, BUT IT IS NOT COMPLETELY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. I WOULD...
00:35:06 HOST KEVIN FROST, A DREXEL LAW STUDENT, PLEASE GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION FOR SECRETARY CHERTOFF. CALLER:...
00:35:39 GUEST I THINK TO THE EXTENT THAT OUR ORDER OF WORDS FOCUS ON KEEPING DRUGS OUT OF THE COUNTRY, I THINK IT...
00:36:59 HOST CITRUS HEIGHTS, CALIF., RANDY, REPUBLICAN, WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? CALLER: MY QUESTION IS REGARDING...
00:37:38 GUEST THANK YOU. CALLER: THE MUMBAI ATTACKS SCARED ME BECAUSE THIS WAS A PRETTY LOW-TECH THING AND I WORRY...
00:38:02 HOST LET'S LEAVE IT THERE.
00:38:07 GUEST AGAIN, A GREAT QUESTION. MUMBAI DID DEMONSTRATE WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WORRYING ABOUT FOUR YEARS, WHICH...
00:39:27 HOST AND TABITHA KENNEDY, DREXEL LAW STUDENT UP IN PHILADELPHIA, YOU GET THE LAST QUESTION OR COMMENT FOR...
00:39:51 GUEST I AGREE THAT IT HAS GOT TO BE COMPREHENSIVE, AND THAT MEANS IT'S GOT TO BE A COMBINATION OF TECHNOLOGY...

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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