Judy Shepard Interview

Oct 3, 2009

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Judy Shepard talked about her book The Meaning of Matthew: My Son's Murder in Laramie, and a World Transformed (Hudson Street Press; September 3, 2009). In the book she recounts the torture and murder in 1998 of her son Matthew due to his sexual orientation and the subsequent legal work involved in prosecuting her son's murderers. Judy .. Read More
Judy Shepard talked about her book The Meaning of Matthew: My Son's Murder in Laramie, and a World Transformed (Hudson Street Press; September 3, 2009). In the book she recounts the torture and murder in 1998 of her son Matthew due to his sexual orientation and the subsequent legal work involved in prosecuting her son's murderers. Judy Shepard is co-founder, with her husband Dennis, of the Matthew Shepard Foundation and is active in promoting social justice, diversity awareness and education, and equality for gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people. She responded to telephone calls and electronic communications from viewers who had also just seen an airing of her speaking at an event at the Salt Lake City Public Library on September 26, 2009. Included in program ID 289260-2.

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TIME SPEAKER TEXT
00:01:11 Host WHAT EXACTLY IN THE LEGISLATION?
00:01:14 Guest IT EXPANDS EXISTING HATE CRIME LAWS TO INCLUDE SEXUAL ORIENTATION, GENDER IDENTITY AND EXPRESSION,...
00:01:48 Host JUDY SHEPARD IS OUR GUEST. THIS IS THE COVER OF THE BOOK, "THE MEANING OF MATTHEW: MY SON'S MURDER...
00:02:30 Caller GOOD MORNING, JOY. I JUST HAPPEN TO CATCH JUST THE LAST OBIT OF YOUR PROGRAM. THE ONE GENTLEMAN HAD...
00:03:33 Guest I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT OF MY WEAKNESSES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO MY QUESTION IS THIS. ARE YOU...
00:04:25 Host YOU SPOKE IN A PRESENTATION IN SALT LAKE ABOUT RELIGION AND YOUR VIEWS ON A. IF YOU COULD USUALLY...
00:04:39 Guest EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO WORSHIP NO MATTER WHAT AND NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL THEM WHERE OR WHERE...
00:05:40 Host IN YOUR BOOK YOU TALK ONE BIT ABOUT YOU NEVER SAW YOURSELF AS A PUBLIC SPEAKER OR BEING IN THIS POSITION....
00:05:55 Guest YOU KNOW, I REALLY DON'T. I DON'T. I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN GETTING MORE THAN ON THE PHONE THAT I DO...
00:06:59 Host WHAT WAS A PROCESS LIKE FOR YOU TO WRITE THIS BOOK?
00:07:02 Guest IT WAS HARD. I WASN'T SURE I WAS EVEN READY TO DO IT OR I COULD EVER DO IT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I EVEN...
00:07:39 Host BABY AND BIG ARM, MONTANA, YOU'RE ON WITH JUDY SHEPARD.
00:07:42 Caller THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD YOU SPEAK ORSINI. I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I WAS...
00:08:22 Guest THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL. THAT HOMECOMING PARADE, THAT FLOW DEFINITELY WAS MAKING FUN OF...
00:08:38 Host JUDY SHEPARD, YOU TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK WHERE YOU FLEW BACK FROM SAUDI ARABIA, GOT TO FORT COLLINS...
00:08:53 Guest I DID. WE HAD NO CONCEPT OF WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON. OUR MINDS WERE TOTALLY FOCUS ON THAT AND HIS...
00:09:32 Host YOU WROTE THAT YOU RECEIVED A CALL FROM PRESIDENT CLINTON.
00:09:35 Guest THAT WAS PRETTY AMAZING. A HOSPITAL ADMINISTER ADMINISTERED WAS BESIDE HIMSELF. I'M NOT LEAVING THAT....
00:10:05 Host MATTHEW SHEPARD WAS ATTACKED ON OCTOBER 6, 1998, AND DIED ON OCTOBER 12, 1998. BARBA, OMAHA, NEBRASKA....
00:10:14 Caller THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. I ENJOY THE PROGRAM BEFORE. YOU ARE A WONDERFUL SPEAKER. A COMMENT...
00:11:07 Guest I WILL DO MY BEST. HE WAS AT A LOCAL TAVERN IN LARAMIE, WYOMING. HE WAS A STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY...
00:12:37 Host YOU WRITING A BOOK THAT YOU HAVE NEVER VISITED THE SPOT IN LARAMIE.
00:12:41 Guest NO. THAT IS NOT THERE. I FEEL NO COMPELLING INTEREST TO GO THERE. THE LAND HAS SINCE CHANGED HANDS,...
00:13:04 Host WHERE ARE RUSSELL AND AARON MCKINNEY TODAY?
00:13:09 Guest THEY ARE IN VIRGINIA. THEY WILL SOON BE MOVED BACK TO LARAMIE IS MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN THE CURRENT...
00:13:28 Host THERE IS NO CHANCE OF PAROLE?
00:13:31 Guest IF THE GOVERNOR COMMUTES ONE, THEN A SECOND LIFE SENTENCE THEN BECOMES ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE. BUT I...
00:13:42 Host PAROLE IN CHICAGO, ILLINOIS.
00:13:47 Caller YES, THANK YOU, JUDY, FOR ALL OF YOUR COURAGE. I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN A GAY ACTIVIST...
00:14:55 Host THANK YOU. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. MINISTATES DIDN'T EVEN HAVE STATE HATE CRIME LAWS. THERE IS NO...
00:15:13 Host MRS. SHEPARD, WE HAVE A TWEET HERE FOR YOU. IT IS FROM ERIC HOW DOES JUDY HANDLE BEING ATTACKED AS...
00:15:26 Guest I HAVE NEVER BEEN TWEEDY BEFORE, SO THIS IS MY FIRST. HE IS ONE OF THOSE WHO HAPPENS TO BE LATE I...
00:16:11 Host DAVID, WASHINGTON, D.C., YOU ARE ON
00:16:14 Caller HELLO. I HAVE APPRECIATED YOUR WORK AND THE COURAGE THAT YOU SHOW. I AM A GAY MAN IN MY '50s, AND...
00:17:00 Guest WELL, THERE IS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT HAS CHAPTERS THROUGHOUT ALL THE STATES, AND IN MANY INTERNATIONAL...
00:18:56 Guest I HAVE TWICE ACTUALLY. I THINK HE IS AN AMAZING CHARISMATIC LEADER. HE IS SMART. GENEROUS, OPEN,...
00:19:12 Host ALL, YOU ARE ON WITH JUDY SHEPARD, AUTHOR OF "THE MEANING OF MATTHEW."
00:19:17 Caller HELLO, JUDY. IT IS A THRILL TO TALK TO YOU. I MET YOU A FEW YEARS AGO, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT...
00:19:43 Host HAVE RAISED THE ABLE HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO, MRS. SHEPARD?
00:19:49 Guest GOSH, COLLEGES AND HIGH SCHOOLS AND ORGANIZATIONS AND RALLIES FOR 10 YEARS. OUT TO BE IN THE MILLION...
00:20:12 Guest HE JUST RETIRED FROM HIS JOB IN SAUDI ARABIA AND GETTING READY TO TAKE A JOB IN AUSTRALIAN NOW. SO...
00:20:20 Host AND YOU ARE STILL BASED IN WYOMING?
00:20:22 Guest WE ARE. WE HAD THE HOME TO GET RID OF FOUNDATION OFFICES ARE LOCATED IN DENVER. NOW ALL THE BUSINESS...
00:20:37 Host AND HOW WAS YOUR SON LOGAN?
00:20:39 Guest LOGAN IS DOING GREAT. HE WORKS FOR THE FOUNDATION AND LOVES LIVING THERE. I THINK WE'RE ALL DOING...
00:20:51 Host THREAD IN BURLINGTON IOWA. PLEASE GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION FOR JUDY SHEPARD.
00:20:56 Caller I HAVE A BROTHER WHO THINKS ALL GAYS SHOULD BE KILLED, THAT HARVEY GOT WHAT HE DESERVED. AND I BELIEVE...
00:22:09 Guest I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT INTERPRETATION. YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE. I THINK NURTURE AND NATURE PLAYS A ROLE...
00:22:36 Host THIS IS THE COVER OF THE BOOK, "THE MEANING OF MATTHEW." THE NEXT CALL COMES FOR ANDREA FROM WEST...
00:22:45 Caller I'M CALLING BECAUSE MY SISTER IS GAY. OUR PARENT DID NOT HAVE ACCEPTED AND I TAKE IT IS BECAUSE WE...
00:23:05 Guest I GUESS I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION, ANDREA.
00:23:10 Caller OUR PARENT. I THINK THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTING BECAUSE WE HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN.
00:23:17 Guest I SEE. YEAH, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE URBAN LEGENDS THAT SOMEHOW GAY PEOPLE ARE UNSAFE AROUND CHILDREN....
00:24:15 Host MRS. SHEPARD, WHO IS JOHN BARUCH?
00:24:18 Guest JOHN BARRETT WAS A NEWS EDITOR FOR THE ADVOCATE MAGAZINE, WHICH FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THAT...
00:25:13 Host TONIA IN MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA,.
00:25:15 Guest PLEASURE OF.
00:25:16 Host YOU ARE ON THE AIR WITH JUDY SHEPARD. PLEASE GO AHEAD. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO RHONDA...
00:25:28 Caller GUESS. I JUST WANTED DAY THAT I ADMIRE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR YOUR SON AND FOR EVERYDAY...
00:26:32 Guest I AGREE. THANK YOU.
00:26:35 Host MRS. SHEPARD, WILL YOU WALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT HOW THE DEATH PENALTY, HOW YOU VIEW THE DEATH PENALTY...
00:26:46 Guest WELL, WE WERE ASKED BY THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY, IF WE HAVE PERSONAL OPINIONS ON THE DEATH PENALTY....
00:28:27 Host WE HAVE ANOTHER TWEAK HERE. PLEASE ASK JUDY HOW SHE THINKS SHE WOULD VIEW THESE ISSUES, GAY RIGHTS...
00:28:38 Guest WELL, I REALLY CAN'T SAY THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD BE AN ACTIVIST OR NOT. WE HAVE NEVER HAD ANY...
00:29:16 Host AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND A TWEAK TO JUDY SHEPARD, TWITTER.COM BOOK TV. NEXT IS STEPHANIE IN INDIANAPOLIS....
00:29:27 Caller YES, HELLO. I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT ON DAYS WHEN YOU GET BARRAGED LIKE A GENTLEMAN THAT STOOD...
00:30:51 Guest THANK YOU. ALL MOTHERS SHOULD DO THAT.
00:30:55 Host CHERYL N. SEATTLE, WASHINGTON. YOU ARE ON WHAT AUTHOR JUDY SHEPARD.
00:31:00 Caller THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING OUT THERE IN THE FRONT LINE FOR ALL THOSE. MY CONCERN AS A MEMBER OF THE...
00:32:00 Guest I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. THIS IS PURELY A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE IN MY MIND. MANY CIVIL RIGHTS IN THE...
00:33:43 Guest WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS THEY'RE. IT'S NOT REALLY A LIFE TO. IT IS THAT YOU ARE. NOBODY IS TRY TO...
00:34:13 Host THE TRIAL TRANSCRIPT AND THE CONFESSION. GO SEE THE LARAMIE PROJECT 10 YEARS LATER WHEN IT SPECIFICALLY...
00:34:28 Host WILMA, SANTA CRUZ CALIFORNIA YOU ARE ON WHAT AUTHOR JUDY SHEPARD.
00:34:33 Caller THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO BE PLAYING YOU IN THE LARAMIE PROJECT 10 YEARS LATER HERE IN SANTA CRUZ ...
00:35:09 Guest WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING ME IN THE PLAITED THANKS FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE PLAY BY THE WAY. I AM...
00:35:34 Host JUDY SHEPARD, VERY BRIEFLY WHAT IS THE LARAMIE PROJECT?
00:35:38 Guest WELL, THE LARAMIE PROJECT IS A PLAY WRITTEN BY. THEY WANT TO LIMIT, INTERVIEWED HUNDREDS OF LARAMIE...
00:36:42 Host JUDY, LAWRENCE, KENTUCKY. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
00:36:46 Caller HI, JUDY. IT IS JIMMY FROM FORD'S KENTUCKY. I WAS WONDERING AS GROWING UP, DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT MATTHEW...
00:37:37 Guest THANKS SO MUCH. ACTUALLY, I DID HAVE MY SUSPICIONS BUT WE DIDN'T CALL THEM SENTENCE, BUT MATT WAS...
00:38:12 Host FOR THOSE OF YOU DIDN'T SEE THIS PROGRAM PRIOR TO COLIN, CAN YOU RELAY THE STORY ABOUT HOW YOU CANNOT?...
00:38:20 Guest IT IS KIND OF FUNNY. MATCH FAVORITE PERSON TO BE FOR HALLOWEEN WAS DOLLY PARTON. AND HE WAS DOLLY...
00:38:47 Host AND WHERE WERE YOU WHEN HE TOLD YOU?
00:38:50 Guest I WAS IN SAUDI ARABIA. THAT WAS A FRESHMAN IN COLLEGE IN NORTH CAROLINA AND HE CALLED ME ON THE PHONE...
00:39:28 Host SUSAN IN LARAMIE, WYOMING. YOU WERE ON WITH JUDY SHEPARD.
00:39:32 Caller HI, JUDY. I AM GLAD TO SEE ON THE PROGRAM AND PLAN TO BUY YOUR BOOK. I WAS A JUROR ON THE AARON MCKINNEY...
00:40:55 Host BEFORE WE GET AN ANSWER FROM MRS. SHEPARD, SUSAN, COULD YOU JUST GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT IT WAS LIKE...
00:41:03 Caller I CAN. I HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS MAY IDENTIFY ME TO PEOPLE. I WAS AN ALTERNATE AND I THINK ONE OF THE...
00:41:47 Host THANK YOU, SUSAN. MRS. SHEPARD?
00:41:48 Guest I HAVE FORGOTTEN THE QUESTION OF. AS IT WAS ABOUT BUSH CHENEY.
00:41:53 Guest RIGHT. THE REACTION WAS ABSOLUTE SILENCE. DEAFENING, DEAFENING SILENCE. IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT....
00:42:23 Host NEXT CALL IS FROM KIM AND DETROIT, MICHIGAN. PLEASE GO AHEAD. KIM, ARE YOU WITH US? KIM? DETROIT,...
00:42:35 Caller OKAY. HI, JUDY. I WAS INTERESTED TO KNOW, I AM ONE OF THREE DAUGHTERS.

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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