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WHAT EXACTLY IN THE LEGISLATION? |
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IT EXPANDS EXISTING HATE CRIME LAWS TO INCLUDE SEXUAL ORIENTATION, GENDER IDENTITY AND EXPRESSION,... |
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JUDY SHEPARD IS OUR GUEST. THIS IS THE COVER OF THE BOOK, "THE MEANING OF MATTHEW: MY SON'S MURDER... |
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GOOD MORNING, JOY. I JUST HAPPEN TO CATCH JUST THE LAST OBIT OF YOUR PROGRAM. THE ONE GENTLEMAN HAD... |
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I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT OF MY WEAKNESSES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO MY QUESTION IS THIS. ARE YOU... |
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YOU SPOKE IN A PRESENTATION IN SALT LAKE ABOUT RELIGION AND YOUR VIEWS ON A. IF YOU COULD USUALLY... |
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EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO WORSHIP NO MATTER WHAT AND NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL THEM WHERE OR WHERE... |
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IN YOUR BOOK YOU TALK ONE BIT ABOUT YOU NEVER SAW YOURSELF AS A PUBLIC SPEAKER OR BEING IN THIS POSITION.... |
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YOU KNOW, I REALLY DON'T. I DON'T. I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN GETTING MORE THAN ON THE PHONE THAT I DO... |
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WHAT WAS A PROCESS LIKE FOR YOU TO WRITE THIS BOOK? |
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IT WAS HARD. I WASN'T SURE I WAS EVEN READY TO DO IT OR I COULD EVER DO IT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I EVEN... |
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BABY AND BIG ARM, MONTANA, YOU'RE ON WITH JUDY SHEPARD. |
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THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD YOU SPEAK ORSINI. I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I WAS... |
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL. THAT HOMECOMING PARADE, THAT FLOW DEFINITELY WAS MAKING FUN OF... |
| 00:08:38 |
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JUDY SHEPARD, YOU TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK WHERE YOU FLEW BACK FROM SAUDI ARABIA, GOT TO FORT COLLINS... |
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I DID. WE HAD NO CONCEPT OF WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON. OUR MINDS WERE TOTALLY FOCUS ON THAT AND HIS... |
| 00:09:32 |
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YOU WROTE THAT YOU RECEIVED A CALL FROM PRESIDENT CLINTON. |
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THAT WAS PRETTY AMAZING. A HOSPITAL ADMINISTER ADMINISTERED WAS BESIDE HIMSELF. I'M NOT LEAVING THAT.... |
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MATTHEW SHEPARD WAS ATTACKED ON OCTOBER 6, 1998, AND DIED ON OCTOBER 12, 1998. BARBA, OMAHA, NEBRASKA.... |
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THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. I ENJOY THE PROGRAM BEFORE. YOU ARE A WONDERFUL SPEAKER. A COMMENT... |
| 00:11:07 |
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I WILL DO MY BEST. HE WAS AT A LOCAL TAVERN IN LARAMIE, WYOMING. HE WAS A STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY... |
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YOU WRITING A BOOK THAT YOU HAVE NEVER VISITED THE SPOT IN LARAMIE. |
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NO. THAT IS NOT THERE. I FEEL NO COMPELLING INTEREST TO GO THERE. THE LAND HAS SINCE CHANGED HANDS,... |
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WHERE ARE RUSSELL AND AARON MCKINNEY TODAY? |
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THEY ARE IN VIRGINIA. THEY WILL SOON BE MOVED BACK TO LARAMIE IS MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN THE CURRENT... |
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THERE IS NO CHANCE OF PAROLE? |
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IF THE GOVERNOR COMMUTES ONE, THEN A SECOND LIFE SENTENCE THEN BECOMES ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE. BUT I... |
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PAROLE IN CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. |
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YES, THANK YOU, JUDY, FOR ALL OF YOUR COURAGE. I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN A GAY ACTIVIST... |
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THANK YOU. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. MINISTATES DIDN'T EVEN HAVE STATE HATE CRIME LAWS. THERE IS NO... |
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MRS. SHEPARD, WE HAVE A TWEET HERE FOR YOU. IT IS FROM ERIC HOW DOES JUDY HANDLE BEING ATTACKED AS... |
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I HAVE NEVER BEEN TWEEDY BEFORE, SO THIS IS MY FIRST. HE IS ONE OF THOSE WHO HAPPENS TO BE LATE I... |
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DAVID, WASHINGTON, D.C., YOU ARE ON |
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HELLO. I HAVE APPRECIATED YOUR WORK AND THE COURAGE THAT YOU SHOW. I AM A GAY MAN IN MY '50s, AND... |
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WELL, THERE IS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT HAS CHAPTERS THROUGHOUT ALL THE STATES, AND IN MANY INTERNATIONAL... |
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I HAVE TWICE ACTUALLY. I THINK HE IS AN AMAZING CHARISMATIC LEADER. HE IS SMART. GENEROUS, OPEN,... |
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ALL, YOU ARE ON WITH JUDY SHEPARD, AUTHOR OF "THE MEANING OF MATTHEW." |
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HELLO, JUDY. IT IS A THRILL TO TALK TO YOU. I MET YOU A FEW YEARS AGO, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT... |
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HAVE RAISED THE ABLE HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO, MRS. SHEPARD? |
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GOSH, COLLEGES AND HIGH SCHOOLS AND ORGANIZATIONS AND RALLIES FOR 10 YEARS. OUT TO BE IN THE MILLION... |
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HE JUST RETIRED FROM HIS JOB IN SAUDI ARABIA AND GETTING READY TO TAKE A JOB IN AUSTRALIAN NOW. SO... |
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AND YOU ARE STILL BASED IN WYOMING? |
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WE ARE. WE HAD THE HOME TO GET RID OF FOUNDATION OFFICES ARE LOCATED IN DENVER. NOW ALL THE BUSINESS... |
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AND HOW WAS YOUR SON LOGAN? |
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LOGAN IS DOING GREAT. HE WORKS FOR THE FOUNDATION AND LOVES LIVING THERE. I THINK WE'RE ALL DOING... |
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THREAD IN BURLINGTON IOWA. PLEASE GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION FOR JUDY SHEPARD. |
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I HAVE A BROTHER WHO THINKS ALL GAYS SHOULD BE KILLED, THAT HARVEY GOT WHAT HE DESERVED. AND I BELIEVE... |
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I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT INTERPRETATION. YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE. I THINK NURTURE AND NATURE PLAYS A ROLE... |
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THIS IS THE COVER OF THE BOOK, "THE MEANING OF MATTHEW." THE NEXT CALL COMES FOR ANDREA FROM WEST... |
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I'M CALLING BECAUSE MY SISTER IS GAY. OUR PARENT DID NOT HAVE ACCEPTED AND I TAKE IT IS BECAUSE WE... |
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I GUESS I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION, ANDREA. |
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OUR PARENT. I THINK THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTING BECAUSE WE HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN. |
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I SEE. YEAH, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE URBAN LEGENDS THAT SOMEHOW GAY PEOPLE ARE UNSAFE AROUND CHILDREN.... |
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MRS. SHEPARD, WHO IS JOHN BARUCH? |
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JOHN BARRETT WAS A NEWS EDITOR FOR THE ADVOCATE MAGAZINE, WHICH FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THAT... |
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TONIA IN MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA,. |
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PLEASURE OF. |
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YOU ARE ON THE AIR WITH JUDY SHEPARD. PLEASE GO AHEAD. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO RHONDA... |
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GUESS. I JUST WANTED DAY THAT I ADMIRE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR YOUR SON AND FOR EVERYDAY... |
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I AGREE. THANK YOU. |
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MRS. SHEPARD, WILL YOU WALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT HOW THE DEATH PENALTY, HOW YOU VIEW THE DEATH PENALTY... |
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WELL, WE WERE ASKED BY THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY, IF WE HAVE PERSONAL OPINIONS ON THE DEATH PENALTY.... |
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WE HAVE ANOTHER TWEAK HERE. PLEASE ASK JUDY HOW SHE THINKS SHE WOULD VIEW THESE ISSUES, GAY RIGHTS... |
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WELL, I REALLY CAN'T SAY THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD BE AN ACTIVIST OR NOT. WE HAVE NEVER HAD ANY... |
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AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND A TWEAK TO JUDY SHEPARD, TWITTER.COM BOOK TV. NEXT IS STEPHANIE IN INDIANAPOLIS.... |
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YES, HELLO. I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT ON DAYS WHEN YOU GET BARRAGED LIKE A GENTLEMAN THAT STOOD... |
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THANK YOU. ALL MOTHERS SHOULD DO THAT. |
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CHERYL N. SEATTLE, WASHINGTON. YOU ARE ON WHAT AUTHOR JUDY SHEPARD. |
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING OUT THERE IN THE FRONT LINE FOR ALL THOSE. MY CONCERN AS A MEMBER OF THE... |
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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. THIS IS PURELY A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE IN MY MIND. MANY CIVIL RIGHTS IN THE... |
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WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS THEY'RE. IT'S NOT REALLY A LIFE TO. IT IS THAT YOU ARE. NOBODY IS TRY TO... |
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THE TRIAL TRANSCRIPT AND THE CONFESSION. GO SEE THE LARAMIE PROJECT 10 YEARS LATER WHEN IT SPECIFICALLY... |
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WILMA, SANTA CRUZ CALIFORNIA YOU ARE ON WHAT AUTHOR JUDY SHEPARD. |
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THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO BE PLAYING YOU IN THE LARAMIE PROJECT 10 YEARS LATER HERE IN SANTA CRUZ ... |
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WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING ME IN THE PLAITED THANKS FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE PLAY BY THE WAY. I AM... |
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JUDY SHEPARD, VERY BRIEFLY WHAT IS THE LARAMIE PROJECT? |
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WELL, THE LARAMIE PROJECT IS A PLAY WRITTEN BY. THEY WANT TO LIMIT, INTERVIEWED HUNDREDS OF LARAMIE... |
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JUDY, LAWRENCE, KENTUCKY. PLEASE GO AHEAD. |
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HI, JUDY. IT IS JIMMY FROM FORD'S KENTUCKY. I WAS WONDERING AS GROWING UP, DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT MATTHEW... |
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THANKS SO MUCH. ACTUALLY, I DID HAVE MY SUSPICIONS BUT WE DIDN'T CALL THEM SENTENCE, BUT MATT WAS... |
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FOR THOSE OF YOU DIDN'T SEE THIS PROGRAM PRIOR TO COLIN, CAN YOU RELAY THE STORY ABOUT HOW YOU CANNOT?... |
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IT IS KIND OF FUNNY. MATCH FAVORITE PERSON TO BE FOR HALLOWEEN WAS DOLLY PARTON. AND HE WAS DOLLY... |
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AND WHERE WERE YOU WHEN HE TOLD YOU? |
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I WAS IN SAUDI ARABIA. THAT WAS A FRESHMAN IN COLLEGE IN NORTH CAROLINA AND HE CALLED ME ON THE PHONE... |
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SUSAN IN LARAMIE, WYOMING. YOU WERE ON WITH JUDY SHEPARD. |
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HI, JUDY. I AM GLAD TO SEE ON THE PROGRAM AND PLAN TO BUY YOUR BOOK. I WAS A JUROR ON THE AARON MCKINNEY... |
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BEFORE WE GET AN ANSWER FROM MRS. SHEPARD, SUSAN, COULD YOU JUST GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT IT WAS LIKE... |
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I CAN. I HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS MAY IDENTIFY ME TO PEOPLE. I WAS AN ALTERNATE AND I THINK ONE OF THE... |
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THANK YOU, SUSAN. MRS. SHEPARD? |
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I HAVE FORGOTTEN THE QUESTION OF. AS IT WAS ABOUT BUSH CHENEY. |
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RIGHT. THE REACTION WAS ABSOLUTE SILENCE. DEAFENING, DEAFENING SILENCE. IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT.... |
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NEXT CALL IS FROM KIM AND DETROIT, MICHIGAN. PLEASE GO AHEAD. KIM, ARE YOU WITH US? KIM? DETROIT,... |
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OKAY. HI, JUDY. I WAS INTERESTED TO KNOW, I AM ONE OF THREE DAUGHTERS. |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.