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VETERANS HISTORY PROJECT I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO OUR SECOND PROGRAM OF FIVE TODAY. VERY EXCITED ABOUT TODAY'S PROGRAM. IT'S ABOUT A TELEVISION SHOW...
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IT'S KEN BERN'S
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NEW FILM ON WORLD WAR II, AND WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE TODAY ONE OF THE VETERANS WHO WAS IN THE FILM, AND PROBABLY AFTER KEN BURNS, THE TWO PEOPLE MOST...
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MIC. [NO AUDIO] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] >> THAT'S GOOD, YEAH. >> "NEW YORK TIMES" BEST SELLER. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] >> HELLO. THERE? ARE YOU THERE?...
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ME? I AM ON.
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OKAY. >> WELL, MAYBE YOU CAN HEAR ME. >> REALLY DIDN'T SEE MUCH -- MY MIC IS
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OFF. >> I KNOW. I KNOW. YOU
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JUST HAVE TO BE PATIENT. HERE HE COMES.
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THERE WE GO. OKAY. THAT'S SO TRUE. >>
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OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THREE DISTINGUISHED PANELISTS HERE TODAY. THE, THE GENTLEMAN OBMY LEFT IS WARD CHAMBERLIN AND HE
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MAY BE FAMILIAR TO YOU AS PAST PRESIDENT AND CEO OF WETA FROM 1975 TO 1990. WHAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT
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WARD CHAMBER LYNN IS THAT HE SERVED IN WORLD WAR II. HE WAS A SICHBILLION AMBULANCE DRIVER FOR THE AMERICAN FIELD SERVICE FOUNDED IN WORLD WAR I. HE...
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I LOST MY EYE WHEN I HAD MENINGITIS WHEN I WAS ABOUT 11 SO I DISCOVERED THAT THERE WAS AN ORGANIZATION CALLED THE AMERICAN FIELD SERVICE, WHICH NOW RUNS...
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AMERICAN ARMY TODAY. THE BRITS AND THE OTHER FORCES IN THE DESERT AND IN, AND IN ITALY HAD LUMBERING VEHICLES THAT HAD
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TWO-WHEEL DREFB AND -- DRIVE AND THEY GOT STUCK ALL THE TIME. BOTH IN THE DESERT THEY GOT STUCK IN ITALY IN THE TERRIBLE WINTER OF 43-44 WHERE THE MUD...
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OF SITTING. >> YOU SAID YOU SERVED IN INDIA? >>
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YES. AT THE END OF THE EUROPEAN CONFLICT, I CAME HOME ON LEAVE AFTER 2.5 YEARS
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ALMOST. AND THEN WHEN I WENT BACK OVER, THEY ASKED ME TO BE THE MAJOR IN
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CHARGE OF THE AMERICAN UNITS THAT WE WERE GOING TO INDIA TO GO
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WHERE THE BRITISH ON THE INVASION OF
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SINGAPORE. AND I STOPPED FIRST IN EUROPE AND PICKED UP THE REMNANTS OF ONE OF OUR COMPANIES THAT WANTED TO CONTINUE. WENT BACK TO ITALY. PICKED UP...
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BOARD.
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AND IT WAS, YOU DIDN'T HAVE MUCH
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SPACE TO SLEEP, BUT WE WERE HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO BE ON THAT SHIP COMING HOME. >> YEAH. WARD, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO ASK EVERY VETERAN THAT WE INTERVIEW THIS...
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PHILOSOPHY OF LIFE WAY? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS SAY NO MATTER WHAT GOOD THE WAR DOES TO ANY INDIVIDUAL, THE BAD THAT IT DOES IS IN MOST CASES WORSE....
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EPI-- PEOPLE TO FOLLOW YOU IN WHAT YOU DO, WHICH WAS TERRIBLY USEFUL IN LATER LIFE. THE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE ORGANIZED THE PUBLIC BROADCASTING SERVICE AND...
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THE BEGINNING WHEN WE GOT BACK. WE WERE TOO BUSY GETTING MARRIED OR CATCHING UP ON LIFE AS IF THAT HAD TO BE DONE IN A FEW YEARS. AND TOM BROCAW CAME...
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GENERATION. INTERVIEWS WITH, WITH, WITH MANY OF US. MANY VETERANS. YOU KNOW, NOW WE KNEW NAT THAT GREATEST GENERATION WAS AN EXAGGERATION, BUT THEN...
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SPECIAL SO
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WE BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT IT AND TALK AMONG OURSELVES AND, AND THAT'S REALLY IN MY OPINION HOW IT OPENED UP BECAUSE OF THE COMBINATION OF BROCAW'S BOOK...
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CERTAINLY THE GREATEST THING
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TO HAPPEN TO ME IN PUBLIC TELEVISION AS TOM HAS SAID,
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I, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED FOUND PUBLIC TELEVISION IN THE SENSE THAT I WORKED FOR A MAN WHO WAS APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT JOHNSON AS THE FIRST
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CHAIRMAN FOR THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING WHICH WAS THE FIRST FEDERAL EFFORT TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF PUBLIC BROADCASTING IN THE UNITED...
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MAN OUTSIDE HERE WHO SAYS HE'S A FILMMAKER, AND HE UNDERSTANDS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
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WELL, I, LUCK PLAYS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF LIFE. I WAS FREE AND I SAID SURE, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO HIM. SO KEN CAME IN. I USED TO DESCRIBE HIM AS A...
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WAR, AND I
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DID HAVE ONE, IF I CAN GO FROM A MINUTE LONGER, I AFTER HE WAS INTO THE CIVIL WAR FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS, MAKING IT, EDITING IT, HE CALLED
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ME
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AND SAID WARD, I HAVE TO SEE YOU. WELL, USUALLY WHEN A PRODUCER CALLS YOU AND SAYS HE HAS TO SEE YOU, IT MEANS THEY'RE OUT OF MONEY. [LAUGHTER] WELL,...
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DRAWING OUT THEIR STORIES? THIS IS OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANTUSE AT THE VETERANS HISTORY BROEKT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE DO. >> RIGHT. WELL, WE STARTED...
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ON, WE WERE
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GOING TO INTERVIEW A HISTORIAN ABOUT SOME SUBJECT THAT WAS THEIR EXPERTISE, SO THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE FOR THE MOST PART THAT...
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TELLING YOU THEIR SUBJECT THAT THEY KNOW WELL AND HAVE MASTERED. AND SO THIS WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SORT OF PROJECT FOR US TO FIRST OF ALL SORT...
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SOMEONE AND BE TALKING WITH THEM AND THEIR WIFE OR THEIR SON AND EVEN THEY WOULD SAY RECOMMEND SOMEONE THAT WE COULD GO MEET AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT...
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WOULD KIND US GIVE OSHINT SO IT IS SOMETIMES HELPFUL TO ASK THE PEOPLE AROUND THE VETERAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHOULD WE ASK HIM ABOUT BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T...
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COUNTRY, HOW UNITED THE COUNTRY WAS, HOW TRANSFORMATIVE
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IT WAS FOR EVERYBODY WHO LIVED THROUGH THAT PERIOD OF TIME. MY PERSONAL ACADEMIC UNDERSTANDING OF THAT BUT IT HAS ALSO TAUGHT ALL OF US THAT HAVE WORKED...
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REALLY LIKE TO BE IN COMBAT AND BY
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HEARING SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE GIVE SUCH DIFFERENT SFOONSS WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCES WERE LIKE AND JUST IN HOW THEY LIVED THEIR LIVES AND HOW THEY'VE CHOSE...
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CEMETERIES. BRITISH, AMERICAN NEAR BUT
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THE GERMAN WAS THE MOST AFFECTING TO ME. 20,000, 20,000 MEN IN THAT CEMETERY. AND WHEN YOU GO INTO THE SEMMERARY, THERE'S A VERY SIMPLE SCULPTURE OF...
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ARE MORE VETERANS, MANY MORE OUT THERE WHOSE STORIES HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FILM FEEDS THE IDEAS, THE NOTION THAT EVERY...
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LONG AND HARD TO FIND ONE IMAGE
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THAT COULD REPRESENT THE ENTIRE FILM AND WHATEVER WE THINK OF THE ENTIRE WORLD WAR II EXPERIENCE AND THERE IS NO ONE PICTURE THAT COULD DO THAT OBVIOUSLY...
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SHOW SOME OF THE AUTHENTICITY OF EXPERIENCE THAT WE HOPE THE FILM BRINGS OUT. AND SO MANY, MANY PICTURES WERE TRIED AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE SETTLED...
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WAS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PACIFIC THEATER VERSUS EUROPE AND, I GUESS WHAT STICKS OUT IN MY MIND IS, YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO THE WAR AND I FORGET...
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I'M NOT QUITE SURE. >> THE DIFFERENCES
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BETWEEN, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN HOW, YOU KNOW, THE AMERICANS FELT
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WHO WERE FIGHTING THE
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JAPANESE VERSUS FIGHTING THE URMEANS --
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EUROPEANS BUT ALSO IN GENERAL WHAT WAS THE RANGE OF EMOTIONS PEOPLE EXPERIENCED YOU KNOW ON ONE EXTREME OR MAYBE NOT ON ONE EXTREME WERE THE MAJORITY
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OF
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PEOPLE UPSET ABOUT THE FACT -- >> I THINK WE ARE DEFINITE WLAE GOING TO DEFER HERE. >> I'M MICKED ALREADY. WELL, I MEAN WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE RANGE...
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SOME, SOME SOLDIERS COULD JUST HAVE A SORT OF A PROTECTIVE DEVICE AROUND
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THEM. WHEN THEY WANT THROUGH TERRIBLE THINGS AND THEY WOULD GO THROUGH IT LIKE IT WAS AN ORDINARY THING. NOW A LOT OF THOSE GUYS WERE AFFECTED AFTER...
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DEPICTED IN THEIR MEDIA AND THE WAY WE WERE DEPICTED IN THEIR MEDIA, BY THE WAY. GERMANS LOOKED MORE LIKE US. THEY LOOKED LIKE US, THEY SEEMED MORE LIKE...
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DEFENDED THE CASINO WAS
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AT FIRST
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GERMAN PARACHUTE DIVISION US WAS UNBELIEVABLE. >> I REALLY, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO OTHER HAVE QUESTIONS BUT I THINK MAYBE THE BEST TIME...
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IT OVER IN THE SALES PAVILION BUT BEFORE WE BREAK, LET'S GIVE ALL THESE PEOPLE A HAND. [APPLAUSE] >> FOR MORE ON THE 2007 NATIONAL BOOK FESTIVAL, VISIT...
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