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CONTINUES. HOST: JASON
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BURNETT, YOU TESTIFIED ON CAPITOL HILL YESTERDAY. HERE IS FROM "THE WASHINGTON POST," "X-EPA OFFICIAL TELLS -- SAYS THAT THE WHITE HOUSE PULLED RANK
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ABOUT THIS GUEST: I DESCRIBED THE DECISION PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
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AGENCY AND THE ADMINISTRATION FOR A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT DECISIONS. THE DECISION ON THE CALIFORNIA VEHICLE WAIVER, AND THE DECISION ULTIMATELY NOT TO...
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VEHICLES WAS DUE TO THE PRESIDENT LOST A POLICY POSITION OF WANTING A SINGLE NATIONAL STANDARD PRESIDENT --'S POLICY
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POSITION OF WANTING A SINGLE NATIONAL STANDARD RATHER THAN TWO STANDARDS. HOST: AND WHAT CAME OUT OF THIS TESTIMONY, ACCORDING TO THE HEADLINES, IS THAT...
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HE SAID ALL THE DELAY THAT THE DECISION WAS BASED -- HE SAID ULTIMATELY THAT DECISION WAS HIS. THE PRESIDENT HAD A POLICY PREFERENCE AND THAT POLICY PREFERENCE...
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BY THE ADMINISTRATOR. HOST: BUT YOU SAID THAT HE CAME UP WITH A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION THAT WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE WANTED BEFORE HE WENT PUBLIC WITH THE...
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ADMINISTRATOR WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND DESCRIBE THAT PLAN. IT WAS MADE CLEAR THAT THE PRESIDENT HAD A POLICY PREFERENCE FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. ...
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HOST: DID YOU SAY THAT IT WAS MADE CLEAR THAT THE PRESENT GUEST: WHEN YOU SAID IT WAS MADE CLEAR THAT THE PRESIDENT HAD A PREFERENCE, WERE YOU THERE,...
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AS
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THE INDIVIDUAL STARTING BY DESCRIBING THE PRINCIPLE OF FEDERALISM AND THEN SAYING "I GUESS THIS
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IS ANTI-FEDERALISM, A DESIRE FOR A SINGLE STATE RATHER THAN TO ALLOW STATES TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND MORE AGGRESSIVE TO REDUCE THE GREENHOUSE GAS...
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FUELS, AND THE GREENHOUSE GASES THAT COME FROM THOSE SCHOOLS. UNDER THE SUPREME COURT DECISION FROM
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THE EPA MUST REGULATE GREENHOUSE GASES AFTER FINDING THAT THEY IN DANGER OF PUBLIC, -- THEY ENDANGER THE PUBLIC. AND THEY CLEARLY DO SO. THIS ADMINISTRATION...
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REGULATIONS. WE PROCEEDED WITH AT ALL IS THE PROCESS OF THROUGHOUT MOST OF
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2007 -- WE PROCEEDED WITH THAT POLICY PROCESS THROUGHOUT MOST OF 2007. THAT CULMINATED IN A CABINET LEVEL MEETING WHERE THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT THAT GREENHOUSE...
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THERE WAS NO SECRET THE FIRST TIME I CAME TO EPA. THERE WAS NO SEEKER WHEN I WAS ASKED BACK TO EPA. AT THE TIME IS ASKED BACK FOR POLICY REASONS, --...
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IN THE ISSUE AND MY EXPERIENCE PREVIOUSLY WORKING BOTH INTERNALLY IN THE PROCESS AND THE AGENCY PROCESS. ADMINISTRATOR JOHNSON WANTED SOMEBODY WITH THAT...
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DECISION. I TOLD HIM TO ROB THE POLICY PROCESS THAT I RECOMMENDED GRANTING THE WAIVER -- I TOLD HIM THROUGHOUT THE POLICY PROCESS THAT I RECOMMENDED GRANTING...
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BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, HE FOLLOWED THE POLICY PREFERENCE OF THE PRESIDENT. HOST: FIRST PHONE CALL, PA., DEMOCRATS ALIKE. CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO...
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KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT REALLY BEING PROTECTED, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN GET HELP. HOST: WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS...
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WILL NOT HELP. THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO PICK UP THIS
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CHALLENGE. WE WANT TO EITHER RESPOND TO THE SUPREME COURT OR PASS A NEW AND BETTER LAW IT IS IN THE COUNTRY'S IN JUST TO BEGIN THE DEBATE NOW. TO ESTABLISH...
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WE HAD. GUEST: WELL I CAN ANSWER THAT. WHAT ABOUT REGULATIONS WE ARE WORKING ON, THE PREMIER REGULATION THAT THE SUPREME COURT SAID MUST BE PURSUED IF...
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AN INCREASE IN FUEL ECONOMY OF THE VEHICLES.
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THAT IS ONE OF THE BEST AND ONLY LONG RUNWAYS THE RIGHT -- ONLY LONG-RUN WAYS THAT WE ARE GOING TO REDUCE THE PAIN AT THE PUMP. INCREASE IN FUEL ECONOMY...
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CALIFORNIA. HOST: NEW JERSEY. CALLER: FROM WHAT I CAN TELL FROM YOUR CAREER,
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IT SEEMS YOU HAVE FAILED MISERABLY AT HAVING ANY POLICY TAKE PLACE THAT
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SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE. I THINK THAT RONALD REAGAN BROUGHT IN THE FIRST POLICIES FROM CALIFORNIA. HE INSTITUTED THEM OUT THERE. HE BROUGHT THEM TO THE...
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GOVERNMENT. AND THEN THOSE POLICIES TO CALLED IN THE MID-1980'S, AND WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION THAT COMPLETELY CHANGED THE POLICY AND ALLOWED WELL...
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INCREASE THE FUEL ECONOMY OF THE VEHICLES. A TICKET TO BE A GENERAL PRINCIPLE OF GOOD GOVERNMENT TO -- I THINK IT SHOULD BE A GENERAL PRINCIPLE OF GOOD...
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COURT CASE AND DEVELOP GREENHOUSE GAS REGULATIONS. THAT WAS THE CHARGE THAT I WAS GIVEN AND THE CHALLENGE THAT I THINK THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO CONFRONT....
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ADMINISTRATION SHOULD GO? GUEST: THIS IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PROFILE REGULATORY EFFORTS AT THE AGENCY. WE HAD INTERAGENCY MEETINGS TWO OR THREE TIMES...
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OMB, AND YOU'RE WORKING TOWARD A CONSTRUCTIVE POLICY TOWARDS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THAT WOULD IMPROVE FUEL ECONOMY OF THE
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VEHICLES AND PROMOTED RENEWABLE AND ALTERNATIVE FUELS. I DO NOT THINK THAT THERE IS ANY QUESTION THAT ALMOST ALL OF US AT EPA WERE WORKING TOWARDS A RESPONSE...
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POLICY AND CLIMATE POLICY. IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS OCCURRED SO FAR. BUT I THINK IS MORE IMPORTANT TO FOCUS ON THESE SORTS OF OPPORTUNITIES...
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REGARDING THE COLLAR'S QUESTION ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE, THERE IS CONSENSUS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS OCCURRING. AND THAT IS HIGHLY LIKELY DUE TO GREENHOUSE...
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GO. THIS IS PROBABLY JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE. TO NARROW IT DOWN TO THE COURT, I AM KIND OF INTERESTED IN YOU ELABORATING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHERE THE...
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BECAUSE THEY ARE AIR POLLUTANTS, THE EPA NEEDS TO MAKE THAT FINDING, AND BECAUSE THEY ENDANGER THE PUBLIC, NEEDS TO MOVE FOLLOWED WITH REGULATIONS TO...
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MAJOR GREENHOUSE GAS. IT COUNTS FOR 90% TO 95% OF THE HEAT ENERGY IN THE ATMOSPHERE. WHEN I RUN MY OWN HEAT NUMBERS, I COME UP WITH CO2 IS ABOUT EIGHT...
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GREENHOUSE GASES, AND IT IS THAT INCREASED THAT IS CREATING -- PUTTING THE ATMOSPHERE OUT OF BALANCE FROM THE HISTORIC GREENHOUSE EFFECT AS BENEFIT...
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MILLION OR $10 MILLION, TO GET THE WHISTLE- BLOWERS, BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HOST: WHAT DO YOU...
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IS THAT THERE IS A LAW
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AS INTERPRETED BY THE SUPREME COURT AND WE SHOULD EXPECT THAT THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF THE GOVERNMENT MOVES FORWARD WITH THAT LAW. I HAVE CONFIDENCE...
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HILL THAT WOULD PUT IN PLACE AND ECONOMY- WIDE TAPPAN
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TRADE SYSTEM -- CAP-
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AND-TRADE SYSTEM. BUT CANDIDATES WILL DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF RESPONDING TO THE CLIMATOLOGIST
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AND ENERGY -- BOTH CANDIDATES WILL DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF SPOTTING TO THE CRIME CHALLENGES AND ENERGY CHALLENGES. HOST: REPUBLICAN LINE. CALLER: I'M...
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POLAR REGION." THESE ARE SWEDISH SCIENTIST. ARE THEY DUMBER THAN AL GORE AND YOUR GROUP? OR IS IT THAT MARS AND SO FORTH, WHY ARE THEY PARALLEL TO THE...
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GOVERNMENT'S. THAT INCLUDES REPORTS FROM
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THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE, THE NATIONAL ACADEMIES OF SCIENCES, AND THE CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE PROGRAM OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. THOSE...
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BASICALLY ALL THE BIG OIL AND BIG MONEY. I WAS DESPERATELY TRIED TO GET IN WITH MR. CHALK AT HOW THEY WANT PEOPLE TO BUY HYBRIDS AND ALL THIS. THE COMMENT...
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ISSUE. IT WILL BE A BIG CHALLENGE. BUT IT ALSO IS A VERY EXCITING TIME. THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE BEING INVENTED AT THE TECHNOLOGIES...
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CHANNEL," STUFF LIKE THAT. I SAW AN INTERESTING THING THAT AFTER 9/11, IT WAS THE ONLY TIME IN U.S. AVIATION HISTORY THAT THERE WERE THREE DAYS WHEN...
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IN A MASSIVE EXPERIMENT ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN. WITH THE INCREASED CONCENTRATIONS OF GREENHOUSE GASES. NORMALLY WHEN YOU HAVE AN EXPERIMENT, YOU CANNOT...
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