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Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
AND OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD NOT LOOK THE OTHER WAY AND JUST PUSHED FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS I AM VERY GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE...
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Mack, Connie IV - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
BY SAYING THIS -- THIS WAS NOT A MILITARY COUP IN AND IF THERE WAS ANY FAULT HERE IT IS ON THE MR. ZELAYA. HE IS OF THE ONE THAT EVERY TURN TURNED...
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Mack, Connie IV - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
OPINION. I BELIEVE THE OAS IS A DANGEROUS ORGANIZATION, THAT IS NOT -- THAT IS NOT FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM OR DEMOCRACY. BUT INSTEAD STANDING IN THE WAY...
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Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
MEEKS. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WILL TRY TO DO IN TWO MINUTES. VIRTUAL I THINK WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY IN THE UNITED STATES FROM WHERE WE WERE...
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Meeks, Gregory - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME. WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AT THE INAUGURATION TO TALK TO SEVERAL HEADS OF STATE WHO SAY WE CANNOT ALLOW COUP D'ETATS, AND...
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| 00:17:12 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
OWN CONSTITUTION. HE DISREGARDS HIS OWN
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McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
ATTORNEY GENERAL. AND WHAT'S MOST DISTURBING TO ME IS THAT, THESE ARE BALLOTS THAT IS AIELLO PRINTED, ORDERED AT LEAST ON THE INFORMATION I HAVE CAME...
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| 00:18:27 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
THE REMOVING OF PRESIDENT ZELAYA. LOOK AT THE COMPANY WE KEEP. WE ARE SUPPORTING A MAN
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Sires, Albio - U.S. Representative, [D] New Jersey
WHO PLOTTED TO HOLD ANY LEGAL BLOW TO CIRCUMVENT THE CONSTITUTION. AND THE DEBATE OF WHETHER PRESIDENT ZELAYA ACTED UNDEMOCRATICALLY OR WHETHER IT WAS...
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| 00:20:06 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
OF DEMOCRACY, COURTESY OF VERY
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Smith, Christopher "Chris" H. - U.S. Representative, [R] New Jersey
SLOPPY NEWS REPORTING. IT WAS ACTUALLY THE CULMINATION OF THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, A PROCESS THAT BEGAN MONTHS BEFORE. THE BRANCHES OF THE GOVERNMENT...
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| 00:22:17 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
ASKING HONDURAN VOTERS WHETHER THEY WANTED A CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY TO
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| 00:22:21 |
Green, Gene - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
ESTABLISH THEM IN THE CONSTITUTION, THE SITUATION IN HONDURAS STARTED TO DETERIORATE. THE ISSUE CULMINATED ON JUNE 28 WENT HONDURAN MILITARY SURROUNDED...
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| 00:24:16 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
TRY TO RESOLVE THIS BY GETTING ALL OF THE FACTS. AND I
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| 00:24:19 |
Burton, Danny "Dan" Lee - U.S. Representative, [R] Indiana
THINK THE FACTS ARE NO CLEAR OF COURSE. ANOTHER NONETHELESS THEY WANT TO GIVE HIM SOME TIME AND THAT'S WHY THEY SAID THEY WANTED DIDN'T WANT TO APPEAR...
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| 00:25:48 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
TO HELP US TO COME
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| 00:25:49 |
Giffords, Gabrielle - U.S. Representative, [D] Arizona
TO TERMS WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS IN HONDURAS, AND UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS AND POTENTIAL OUTCOMES OF THIS VERY SERIOUS LEADERSHIP CRISIS UNFOLDING THERE....
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| 00:26:06 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
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Fortenberry, Jeffrey "Jeff" Lane - U.S. Representative, [R] Nebraska
ABOUT HONDURAS IS SIMPLE DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS AS WELL AS THE SCALE AND SCOPE OF ABUSES OF POWER ATTRIBUTED TO MR. ZELAYA. I WOULD ALSO IMPLORE OUR...
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| 00:26:57 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
OF OFFICE. HOWEVER, BY THE
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| 00:26:59 |
Payne, Donald M. - U.S. Representative, [D] New Jersey
SAME TOKEN, I CAN'T SEE WHERE ANYONE CAN SAY THAT IF YOU TAKE SOMEBODY OUT WITH AN ARMY AND GUNS, PUT THEM ON A PLANE AND AS HE TRIES TO COME BACK,...
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| 00:29:11 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
AND CONSTITUTIONALLY
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Unidentified Speaker, -
BASED INSTITUTIONS AND EVOLVE INTO A HUGO CHAVEZ TYPE OF
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Unidentified Speaker, -
OTTO TRACK. I THINK WHAT IS PARTICULARLY DISCONCERTING FOR ME IS THE FACT THAT NO AMERICAN OFFICIAL AT THE U.S. EMBASSY IN HONDURAS OR THE STATE DEPARTMENT...
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Unidentified Speaker, -
TO. JUST AS I WAS OPPOSED TO
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Unidentified Speaker, -
THE COUP D'ETAT IN HAITI, WHICH THE UNITED STATES ENABLED AND SUPPORTED UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, I DON'T...
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| 00:32:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
A VICTORY FOR DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT AND THE RULE OF LAW OVER IDEALISM.
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| 00:32:07 |
Rohrabacher, Dana - U.S. Representative, [R] California
IT WAS NOT A COUP D'ETAT BUT A DEFEAT OF A LEFT WING TO. LED BY A CORRUPT ELITIST WHO HAS BEEN IMPLICATED IN THE DRUG TRADE. THIS WOULD BE A DEAL WAS...
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| 00:33:58 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT NOT WHAT'S
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| 00:34:03 |
Delahunt, William "Bill" D. - U.S. Representative, [D] Massachusetts
HAPPENING IN THIS ROOM IN THIS HEARING, BUT THE MESSAGE THAT IS BEING RECEIVED ALL OVER LATIN AMERICA AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME ARE WHAT YOU ARE HEARING,...
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| 00:36:20 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
PREPARED STATEMENT, AND LISTENED WITH GREAT INTEREST TO WHAT I CAN LEARN ABOUT THE SITUATION
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| 00:36:27 |
Hinojosa, Ruben - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
IN HONDURAS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND NOW I AM GOING TO INTRODUCE OUR DISTINGUISHED WITNESSES. I THINK THE TOUGHEST THING ABOUT BEING THE WITNESS...
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| 00:36:49 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
OF PEACE. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO READ YOUR STATEMENTS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. YOU CAN ASK THAT THEY BE SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORD, AND THEY WILL BE AS IF...
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| 00:38:41 |
Shifter, Michael - Vice President
JUNE 28 IN HONDURAS WAS A RUPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATIC ORDER. THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. THAT I THINK WAS PROBABLY CENSORED BY THE UNITED STATES AND THE...
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| 00:44:27 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
OF MY PREPARED STATEMENT WHICH I REQUEST TO BE INCLUDED IN ITS ENTIRETY IN THE RECORD. MY NAME IS
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| 00:44:36 |
Perez-Cadalso, Guillermo - Professor
GUILLERMO PEREZ-CADALSO. IN THE PAST I HAVE SERVED MY COUNTRY AS THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS, AS A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE AND AS THE PRESIDENT OF...
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| 00:51:06 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
YEARS OF MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE. I AM
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| 00:51:09 |
Olson, Joy - Executive Director
NOT GOING TO SPEND MUCH TIME TALKING ABOUT THE TAX OF WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A LOT OF
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| 00:51:16 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
THAT. I
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| 00:51:17 |
Olson, Joy - Executive Director
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS. ONE, IT'S NOT ONLY THE U.S. TO IDENTIFY THIS AS A COUP. EVERY COUNTRY IN THE HEMISPHERE HAS IDENTIFIED IT...
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| 00:57:13 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
AMERICAN CONTINUATION OF THIS DARK WORLD THIS COMMITTEE MADE DURING THE CENTRAL AMERICAN WARS IN
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| 00:57:18 |
Arnson, Cynthia - Director
THE 1980'S AND A SUBSEQUENT RESOLUTION IN THE 1990'S. AS THE OPENING STATEMENTS DEMONSTRATED, MOSTLY BY THE MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS WELL AS BY...
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| 00:57:28 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
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| 00:57:29 |
Arnson, Cynthia - Director
IN EVERY CONFLICT REFLECTS DEEPLY CONTRASTING NARRATIVES REGARDING RELEVANT FACTS. WHAT I WILL ATTEND TO DO IN THE SHORT TIME THAT I HAVE IT IS NOT...
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| 01:02:26 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
CONGRESSMAN DAN BURTON
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| 01:02:28 |
Davis, Lanny J. - Special Counsel
WHO AT SOME POINT IN MY PAST CAREER I WAS AT TIMES AN ADVERSARY BUT ALWAYS FRIENDLY, ALWAYS CIVIL AND, OF COURSE, MY FRIEND CHRIS SNEATH WILL I CONSIDER...
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| 01:07:26 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
BEGIN BY SIMPLY EXPRESSING MY SYMPATHIES TO THE PEOPLE OF HONDURAS FOR THE VIOLENCE AND POLITICAL TURMOIL
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| 01:07:32 |
Stephens, Sarah - Executive Director
AND HAVE EXPERIENCED
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| 01:07:34 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
SINCE JUNE 28. IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE AND PERHAPS INEVITABLE THAT THEIR
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| 01:07:39 |
Stephens, Sarah - Executive Director
PRICES HAS TRIGGERED A LARGER DEBATE ABOUT POLICY AND POLITICS OF A DEMOCRACY AND DIPLOMACY. BUT NEED -- THE THEIR MILITARY DIGNITY SHOULD BE FORGOTTEN...
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| 01:13:35 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
MARK OF A SPEED OF AN ATTEMPT TO
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| 01:13:38 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
UNDERMINE DEMOCRACY IN THE HEMISPHERE OR AS A GREEN LIGHT TO THE AUTHORITARIAN ANOTHER GUISE OF
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| 01:13:46 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
DEMOCRACY. REMOVAL OF PRESIDENT ZELAYA HAS BEEN REFERRED TO MANY OUTSIDE OF HONDURAS AS AN ATTACK ON DEMOCRACY IN CONTRAST FOR PROMINENT HONDURAN TOURISTS...
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| 01:19:15 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. FERMI I THINK THE QUESTION I LIKE TO CONCENTRATE ON IS WHERE YOU GO FROM HERE. OBVIOUSLY THERE IS NEGOTIATION GOING ON WITH...
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| 01:21:20 |
Davis, Lanny J. - Special Counsel
A SOLUTION THAT INVOLVES THE RETURN OF MR. ZELAYA AND THAT IS THE CHOICE -- >> WILL YOU HOLD FOR A MINUTE BREAKS UNNOTICED IN THE AUDIENCE THERE ARE...
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| 01:21:46 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
BELIEVE THAT MR. ZELAYA, PRESIDENT MICHELETTI AND PRESIDENT ARIAS ARE IN TO DISCUSS SOME. ONE IS THAT THE RULE OF LAW IS VERY
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| 01:21:58 |
Davis, Lanny J. - Special Counsel
IMPORTANT, MR. ZELAYA THESE TECHNOLOGY THAT AND CERTAINLY NEWS TO THE KNOWLEDGE THE SUPREME COURT, HIS OWN PARTY AND THE CONGRESS AND ALL THE OTHER...
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| 01:23:26 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
A U.S. CITIZEN AND HOW HONDURAN POLITICIANS AND HOW THE HONDURAN PUBLIC SHOULD
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| 01:23:31 |
Arnson, Cynthia - Director
RESOLVE THIS CRISIS, BUT I FRANKLY FIND IT IMPROBABLE THAT A RESOLUTION TO THE CRISIS COULD BE FOUND THAT THIS NOT INCLUDE PRESIDENT ZELAYA'S RETURN...
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| 01:25:54 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
THE MILITARY THE RIGHT TO REMOVE A PRESIDENT FROM POWER AT GUNPOINT AND WITH -- WHISKEY OUT OF THE COUNTRY? I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE TO RISS WITH ME...
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| 01:26:58 |
Mack, Connie IV - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
LATIN AMERICA. NOT ALL CONSTITUTIONS ARE WRITTEN THE SAME. BUT IS CLEAR AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AN EXPERT AS SOMEONE MENTIONED, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES...
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| 01:29:49 |
Davis, Lanny J. - Special Counsel
CLIENTS ARE CONCERNED IT. ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK MY CLIENTS WOULD AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN THAT THERE IS NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT ALLOWS SOME...
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| 01:32:40 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
I DO BELIEVE THAT WHAT PRESIDENT ARIAS IS DOING AND SOMETIMES
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| 01:32:45 |
Meeks, Gregory - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
TRY TO LOOK AT THE PRISM OF WHETHER THE GLASS -- GLASS IS HALF FULL OR HALF EMPTY. SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE DEMOCRACY TO OF THE SOUTH AND CENTRAL AMERICA...
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| 01:35:39 |
Olson, Joy - Executive Director
BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE U.S. GIVES FOREIGN ASSISTANCE WITH MUCH OF IT BEING EXECUTED BY NONGOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES ACTUALLY THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS NOT...
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| 01:36:16 |
Meeks, Gregory - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
LEGITIMATE. >>
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| 01:36:17 |
Olson, Joy - Executive Director
ABSOLUTELY. >> IN FOR ME THE ISSUE IS NOT RIGHT NOW DOES THE MILITARY RUN THE COUNTRY, THE QUESTION OF A COUP IS NOT WHO'S RUNNING THE COUNTRY ENTIRELY...
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| 01:36:37 |
Meeks, Gregory - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
BEYOND JUST THE MILITARY
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| 01:36:38 |
Olson, Joy - Executive Director
TAKING OVER. SO THE OTHER THING IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK LEGALITY AND ILLEGALITY COME INTO LEGALLY REMOVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNTRY THAT AREN'T...
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| 01:37:22 |
Meeks, Gregory - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
LAW, YOU ARREST SOMEONE, PLACE THEM UNDER ARREST AND THEREFORE THERE IS A PROCEEDING THAT TAKES PLACE SO THAT ONE CAN BE FOUND GUILTY OR INNOCENT, NOT...
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| 01:38:02 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
ESTABLISHED, GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE AN ORDER HERE TO THE MILITARY TO
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| 01:38:07 |
McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
ARREST HIM. HE WAS ORDERED AND -- FOUND TO BE IN TREASON AGAINST HIS OWN COUNTRY. ABUSED HIS AUTHORITY AND USURP HIS POWER. AS MR. DAVIS POINTED OUT...
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| 01:40:50 |
Perez-Cadalso, Guillermo - Professor
POLITICAL SCIENCE ONE FINDS THAT THE COUP-DETAT HAVE SOME CHARACTERISTICS. ONE, THE MILITARY SEIZES POWER AND THEY TAKE POWER OR THEY DO A CIVIC MILITARY...
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| 01:44:14 |
Green, Gene - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
THE RESTRICTION OF
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| 01:44:15 |
Olson, Joy - Executive Director
THE MEDIA. PRETTY MUCH OF THE OPPOSITION MEDIA WERE TAKEN OFF THE AIR, AND OFF THE AIR AND THEY WERE NOT SHOWING UP IN PRINT SO YOU ENDED UP WITH A...
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| 01:44:51 |
Davis, Lanny J. - Special Counsel
THE DISTANCE, THE ANSWER IS DEMOCRACY AND CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE STILL FLOURISHING. >> LET ME GET MY OTHER QUESTION QUICKLY. THE CHANGING CONSTITUTIONS...
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| 01:45:19 |
Green, Gene - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
IS THE EIGHT GENERAL CORRECT STATEMENT? DO YOU WANT TO EXTEND THE TERMS OF OFFICE MY PUBLIC REFERENDUM -- >> MR. GREEN, AS I TESTIFIED IN MY TESTIMONY...
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| 01:45:52 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
THINK -- PRESIDENT URIBE DID THE SAME THING EXTENDED THE TERM. >> HE HAS NOT DONE THAT, HE HAS PRESENTED THAT, HE HASN'T DECIDED WHETHER HE IS GOING...
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| 01:46:13 |
Green, Gene - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD. >> I DON'T THINK IT IS GOOD FOR COLUMBIA ANY MORE THAN I THINK IT IS GOOD FOR
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| 01:46:18 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
HONDURAS OR HAS BEEN GOOD FOR VENEZUELA OR BOLIVIA OR ECUADOR OF THE OTHERS BUT THAT IS JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION AND BASED ON 40 SOME YEARS WORKING IN...
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| 01:46:35 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
I DON'T KNOW FOR SOME REASON, CULTURAL REASONS FOR POLITICAL ONCE THEY GET INTO POWER THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT UP. >> I'M GOING TO LET THAT BE THE CHARNEL...
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| 01:47:03 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
NOT AGAIN AND WE HAVE IT HAPPENING AGAIN OR IT
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| 01:47:06 |
Smith, Christopher "Chris" H. - U.S. Representative, [R] New Jersey
ALMOST HAPPENED IN HONDURAS. MY QUESTION IS SALI ZELAYA HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF SEVERAL VERY SERIOUS CRIMES INCLUDING TREASON, ABUSE OF AUTHORITY AND ...
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| 01:48:33 |
Perez-Cadalso, Guillermo - Professor
RETURN AS PRESIDENT. THE THING THAT WOULD WORRY ANYONE THAT RESPECTS THE LAW WOULD BE THAT IF HE RETURNS, IF THINGS FOLLOW THE LEGAL TREND HE WILL BE...
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| 01:50:17 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT MENTIONED. THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS COUP, THE PERSON THAT RAISED THE MINIMUM WAGE. PEOPLE CAME TO NEW YORK TO SWEAR IN AN...
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| 01:50:28 |
Payne, Donald M. - U.S. Representative, [D] New Jersey
CALLED THE CENTRAL AMERICAN BLACK ORGANIZATION MADE UP OF PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DESCENT THROUGHOUT CENTRAL AMERICA TO SHOW THE RESPECT OF THAT ORGANIZATION....
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| 01:51:05 |
Davis, Lanny J. - Special Counsel
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT CUT OFF WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL SUFFER, THE PEOPLE LEAST ABLE TO COPE WITH THE CUT OFF OF THE AID I HOPE BOTH DEMOCRATS...
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| 01:51:41 |
Payne, Donald M. - U.S. Representative, [D] New Jersey
BY THE REPRESENTATION OF THE NEW GOVERNMENT, WHICH OUR FOREIGN MINISTER WHO -- >> HE'S BEEN FORCED OUT, CONGRESSMAN. >> OKAY, BUT IT MUST HAVE SOME...
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| 01:52:09 |
Davis, Lanny J. - Special Counsel
IS MY JOB, HOWEVER, I
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| 01:52:12 |
Payne, Donald M. - U.S. Representative, [D] New Jersey
LIKE THIS LITTLE BLACK SUGAR PLANTATION WORKER WHO IS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE I AM PREJUDICED, BUT A STATEMENT...
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| 01:52:48 |
Davis, Lanny J. - Special Counsel
GOT IN. [APPLAUSE] >> MAY I ADD THAT HUGO CHAVEZ USED THE SAME TERM TO DESCRIBE PRESIDENT OBAMA? >> WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS COUNTRY....
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| 01:53:01 |
Payne, Donald M. - U.S. Representative, [D] New Jersey
FROM CHAVEZ. >> IT'S REPREHENSIBLE NO MATTER WHO SAYS IT WHETHER IT IS LEFT
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| 01:53:06 |
Davis, Lanny J. - Special Counsel
OR RIGHT -- IN THE CASE OF PONDER IS AT LEAST
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| 01:53:08 |
Payne, Donald M. - U.S. Representative, [D] New Jersey
FIVE MINISTER WAS -- >> HE ISN'T GOING
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| 01:53:12 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
TO HAVE ANY TIME SO I AM GOING TO YIELD. >>
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| 01:53:16 |
Payne, Donald M. - U.S. Representative, [D] New Jersey
THANK YOU MR. ROHRABACHER. >> I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD POINT
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| 01:53:23 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
AMBASSADOR REICH WAS GOING TO MAKE. WHEN HUGO CHAVEZ SAYS SOMETHING THAT YOU CONDEMN HIM AS MUCH AS YOU ARE CONDEMNING SOMEBODY THAT THIS GROUP
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| 01:53:32 |
Payne, Donald M. - U.S. Representative, [D] New Jersey
SACKED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT TYPE OF
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| 01:53:36 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
LANGUAGE. MR. REICH OR AMBASSADOR REICH I SHOULD
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| 01:53:41 |
Rohrabacher, Dana - U.S. Representative, [R] California
SAY DIDN'T MR. CHAVEZ HIMSELF TO LEAD A COUP DE TAHA IN 1992? >> YES, SIR. THAT WAS A COUP DE TALL. >> WAS HIS PLAN TO PUT IN POWER HIMSELF WHO WAS...
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| 01:54:09 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
AND SO MR. CHAVEZ, THE GREATEST ALLY OF THIS
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| 01:54:12 |
Rohrabacher, Dana - U.S. Representative, [R] California
WOULD BE CUT DEAL AND HONDURAS, HIMSELF, CONDUCTED A MILITARY COUP AGAINST THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT? >> THERE'S NO QUESTION THERE'S A DOUBLE...
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| 01:54:23 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
I -- I AM GLAD, FOR EXAMPLE, REFERRED TO THE DOUBLE STANDARD AS BEING CARRIED OUT THE LAST
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| 01:54:30 |
Rohrabacher, Dana - U.S. Representative, [R] California
SEVERAL YEARS OF OVERLOOKING THE VIOLATIONS OF CIVIL RIGHTS BY GOVERNMENTS OF THE LEFT. THE VERY WEEKEND THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING HERE IN THIS CITY WHAT...
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| 01:54:41 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
GOVERNMENT OF HONDURAS WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED HERE AS HAVING TRAMPLED SOME CIVIL RIGHTS -- HUGO CHAVEZ PLAME HE WAS CLOSING DOWN 200 RADIO STATIONS...
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| 01:55:15 |
Rohrabacher, Dana - U.S. Representative, [R] California
SPECTRUM AND HONDURAS THINK THAT IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO REMOVE HIM FROM POWER BECAUSE HE HAD VIOLATED THE CONSTITUTION. >> THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME IS...
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| 01:55:46 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
LAW HAVE NOT MENTION THE FUNDAMENTAL RULE OF TO PROCESS. AS A KEY ASPECT OF THE WORLD OF LAW, AND I THINK IF WE
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| 01:55:52 |
Arnson, Cynthia - Director
CAN AGREE THAT IT IS ALL RIGHT TO ARREST SOMEONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT IN HIS PAJAMAS AND PUT HIM ON A PLAN OUTSIDE THAT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN...
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| 01:56:27 |
Smith, Christopher "Chris" H. - U.S. Representative, [R] New Jersey
PRESIDENT ZELAYA HAD, YOU KNOW, RAISED THE MINIMUM WAGE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SAID HOW THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY SUPPORTED THE COUP AND
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| 01:56:34 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
THE CHURCH SUPPORTED THE COUP AND NOW
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| 01:56:36 |
Lee, Barbara - U.S. Representative, [D] California
I'M LEARNING THAT THE CHURCH DIDN'T OF COURSE LIKE HIS VETO IN THE LEGISLATION TO BAN THE MORNING AFTER PILL. AND SO THE MORE AND MORE YOU DIG INTO...
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| 01:58:02 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
THE EVENTS OF JUNE 28 AND HONDURAS. THERE HAD BEEN
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| 01:58:06 |
Lee, Barbara - U.S. Representative, [D] California
VIOLATIONS OF THE HONDURANS PEOPLE CIVIL RIGHTS BY THIS ZELAYA GOVERNMENT. THIS DIDN'T
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| 01:58:14 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
JUST HAPPEN. THE HONDURAN SUPREME COURT DIDN'T JUST WAKE UP FRIDAY MORNING AND DECIDE WHY DON'T WE WRITE AN OPINION UNANIMOUSLY TO GET RID OF THE PRESIDENT....
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| 01:58:47 |
Lee, Barbara - U.S. Representative, [D] California
INSTITUTIONS OF HONDURAS AND ACTUALLY WORKED AND WE ARE -- I THINK THIS IS A DIALOGUE OF DEATH FRANKLY ON THE TWO. YOU'VE HEARD MEMBERS OF THE FORMER...
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| 01:59:03 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
PRESIDENT CONSTITUTED AS SELF ACTIVATING RULE BY WHICH HE CEASED TO BE THE PRESIDENT. ALL I AM NOT A LAWYER AS I SAID IN MY TESTIMONY I AM NOT QUALIFIED...
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| 01:59:58 |
Lee, Barbara - U.S. Representative, [D] California
A QUESTION. THAT IS CHAIRWOMAN SHEILA JACKSON LEE. >> I WILL BE BRIEF. THIS IS A CRUCIAL HEARING AND I PROBABLY DIG TO DIFFER
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| 02:00:05 |
Reich, Otto - Assistant Secretary
WITH MY FRIEND MR. REICH. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR CONSTITUTIONAL
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| 02:00:09 |
Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
GOVERNMENT TO COME IN ON THE PROCESS OF GOVERNMENT. I WOULD OFFER THIS: I THINK IT IS GOOD NEWS THE PRESIDENT OF COSTA RICA AND SECRETARY CLINTON ARE...
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| 02:00:22 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
AND SUGGESTION. ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MS. OLSEN QUICKLY DO YOU THINK THE PAUSE WE HAVE ON AID IS POSITIVE. SECONDARILY I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM...
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| 02:01:41 |
Olson, Joy - Executive Director
USE TO SHOW THEIR DISAGREEMENT AND I SENSE WITH SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED. SO YES, I DO THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE AND NO, WE HAVEN'T CUT OFF ALL AID TO...
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| 02:02:19 |
Davis, Lanny J. - Special Counsel
HERE, CONGRESSWOMAN LEE, WITH THE WISDOM OF HINDSIGHT IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY. BUT UNDERSTANDING THE CONTEXT OF THE FEAR AT THE TIME THAT...
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Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
THOROUGHLY AND WE HAVE HAD ALL DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW, BOTH FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE AND ALSO FROM THE
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Engel, Eliot - U.S. Representative, [D] New York
PANELISTS. SELWA UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANYTHING THEY MUST SAY I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TESTIMONY, FROM WHAT I...
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