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REVIEW" MAGAZINE, A PIECE ABOUT
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Casey, Libby - Host
JOHN ALLEN. GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. DOES THIS MEAN THAT JOHN ALLEN IS THE LAST FIELD COMMANDER? GUEST: PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS SAID WE...
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
EVEN QUICKER. GENERAL ALLEN WILL BE THE LAST COMMANDER TO MAKE DECISIONS IN THE FIELD. HOST: PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS PROMISED TO WITHDRAW TROOPS BY 2014....
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Casey, Libby - Host
JOHN ALLEN -- WHAT IS IN JOHN ALLEN'S MIND? GUEST: 0 AGENERAL ALLEN IS A TROOP LEADER. HE SAID, I'M NOT
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
ABOVE AMERICANS FIGHTING THIS WAR ANYMORE. I AM ABOUT TURNING THIS WAR OVER TO THE AFGHANS. HE IS FOCUSED ON TURNING THE WAR OVER TO THE AFGHAN SECURITY...
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Casey, Libby - Host
HOST: TELL US MORE ABOUT WHO GENERAL ALLEN IS. HE IS NOT AS KNOWN AS GENERAL
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Casey, Libby - Host
PETRAEUS AND OTHER LEADERS. GUEST: JOHN ALLEN IS A MARINE TROOP COMMANDER WHO CAME FROM APRIL SCHOOL AND WAS LOOKING TO GO TO PRINCETON
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
BUT DECIDED HE WOULD GO TO THE NAVAL ACADEMY. THE MARINES ALWAYS SEEM TO BE IN THE THICK OF BATTLE. HIS FATHER AND TEACHERS FOUGHT IN WORLD WAR II WITH...
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Casey, Libby - Host
IT'S BEEN A VICE PRESIDENT OF THE HUDSON INSTITUTE AND JOINS US FROM PROVIDENCE, RHODE ISLAND. GUEST: BASICALLY I'M A MARINE. A MARINE GRUNT. HOST:...
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
LINES. WE'RE
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Casey, Libby - Host
TALKING ABOUT GENERAL JOHN ALLEN. OUR GUEST HAS A PIECE CALLED " THE LAST MILITARY COMMANDER." WHAT DOES HE SEE IN TERMS OF THE PARALLELS OF AMERICAN...
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
THEY DID NOT CONTROL COMPLETELY THE OUTCOME. HE UNDERSTANDS THAT HOW AFGHANISTAN TURNS OUT DEPENDS ON THE AFGHANS AND NO LONGER DEPENDS UPON THE AMERICANS....
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Casey, Libby - Host
AFGHANISTAN.
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HOST: WHAT WE DO ABOUT THAT NOW? CALLER: IT IS NONE OF OUR BUSINESS WHAT THEY DO.
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Casey, Libby - Host
I THINK WE SHOULD PULL OUT.
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GUEST: JULIE, WE ARE. I GET WHAT JULIE IS SAYING. I GET IT.
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
WE'RE THERE BECAUSE WE WERE ATTACKED -- IN NEW YORK CITY AND 3000 AMERICANS WERE MURDERED. THAT'S WHY WE WENT TO AFGHANISTAN, TO GET THIS PEOPLE THAT...
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Casey, Libby - Host
LINE. HOW DOES GENERAL ALLEN VIEWING GIVING CONTROL TO THE AFGHANS? GUEST: HE SAID THERE ARE FOUR VECTORS THAT ARE GOING TO DETERMINE THE OUTCOME. THE...
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
UNITED STATES. AFGHANISTAN IS GOING TO NEED $5 BILLION TO TENDER IN DOLLARS A YEAR AFTER 2014 -- $10 BILLION. THEN HE SAID PAKISTAN. PAKISTAN IS 5,000...
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PEOPLE WERE FORCED INTO WAR SO THEY CAN BANKRUPT THE PEOPLE. THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. NOW WE HAVE THE PATRIOT ACT. DONALD FAGAN...
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
HOST: RICK FROM NEW YORK, REPUBLICAN. CALLER: I
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Casey, Libby - Host
ALMOST THOUGHT THE GUY ON TV WAS
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KACZYNSK-- BUT NOW BUSH HAD ORDERS TO GO IN TO AFGHANISTAN ON SEPTEMBER 10, THE DAY BEFORE 9/11. BRING THE TROOPS HOME AND SECURE THE BORDERS HERE. HOST:...
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Casey, Libby - Host
GUEST: I'M NOT A POLITICAL COMMENTATOR. I HAVE NO CONCEPT OF THAT.
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
I SPEND MY TIME ON THE BATTLEFIELDS. EVERYBODY CAN SAY, LET'S GO HOME. IF YOU'RE A GLOBAL POWER AND YOU HAVE A GLOBAL ECONOMY, NO SENSIBLE PERSON WILL...
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Casey, Libby - Host
I MEANT WHAT I SAID ABOUT TRANSITION BEING THE LINCHPIN OF OUR SUCCESS.
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THE FIRST OF THESE WAS TO KEEP UP THE PRESSURE ON THE ENEMY AND WE HAVE DONE THAT. MISSING WERE SHARPLY ON OUR EFFORTS TO GROW AND TO DEVELOP THE CAPABILITIES....
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Casey, Libby - Host
GUEST: I DO NOT KNOW. I DO NOT THINK ANY REASONABLE PERSON KNOWS
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
HOW AFGHANISTAN IS GOING TO TURN OUT BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WE ARE NOT THERE. WHILE WE'RE THERE, IT WILL BE RELATIVELY STABLE. THE...
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Casey, Libby - Host
VIETNAM AND IN AFGHANISTAN? I THINK
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THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE WON ANYTHING ARE THE DEFENSE CONTRACTORS. WE SPEND $160 MILLION PER AIRCRAFT. GUEST: YOU HAVE COVERED SEVERAL DIFFERENT SUBJECTS....
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
KNOW. I FOUGHT IN VIETNAM AS A MARINE. I UNDERSTAND QUITE A BIT ABOUT THE FIGHTING THERE. VIETNAM WAS 30 YEARS AGO -- 40 YEARS AGO. YOU CANNOT COINJOIN...
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Casey, Libby - Host
TODAY. HOST: HOW MUCH TO SOMEONE LIKE GENERAL ALLEN THINK ABOUT HISTORIES PER TRAIL OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE WAR AND WHAT HIS OBLIGATION IS TO
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Casey, Libby - Host
THE PRESIDENT AND TO THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE OVER THERE E? GUEST: SECRETARY OF DEFENSE MCNAMARA AGAINST THE WAR -- I THINK THAT IS A
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
DISGRACE. IF YOU DID NOT WANT TO STAY THERE, DO NOT STAY AS SECRETARY OF DEFENSE. I THINK GENERAL ALLEN WOULD ASSOCIATE WITH THE END OF THE STATEMENT,...
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Casey, Libby - Host
ASSUMING THE
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PLAN GOES AS PLANNED AND WE DO PULL OUT OF AFGHANISTAN, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT THE PAKISTANIS WILL SUPPORT THAT 1500-MILE BORDER THAT THEY HAVE? WILL...
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
PAKISTAN IS PLAYING A DOUBLE GAME AND WE KNOW IT AND THEY KNOW IT. IN THE END, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CLEAN OUT THE CENTAURUS IN THE MOUNTAINS ON THE...
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Casey, Libby - Host
WEST, MILITARY ANALYST PERRY HE WAS THE ASSISTANT DEFENSE SECRETARY IN THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION. HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE HUDSON INSTITUTE. WE'RE...
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
AFGHANISTAN -- ABOUT TWO DOZEN TRIPS. I DID NOT SPEND TIME IN HEADQUARTERS. I WAS AN ADVISER IN VIETNAM IN A SMALL VILLAGE WITH A DOZEN MARINES. THE...
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Casey, Libby - Host
WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH
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YOUR LIFE. WE SAY WE ATTACKED AFGHANISTAN BECAUSE THEY ATTACKED US. THAT IS NOT TRUE. GEORGE W. BUSH IS A WAR AMONG MONGERER. LEAD TO PUT THE SQUIRRELLY...
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Casey, Libby - Host
USED MILITARY STRIKES AGAINST AL QAEDA. WE DID NOT HAVE TO GO INTO AFGHANISTAN TO ACHIEVE OUR
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GOALS. GUEST: OK, CHRIS, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE ATTACKED AL QAEDA, WAY OR ANOTHER. I HAVE NOT
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
BEEN KIND ENOUGH BOOKS TO PRESIDENT BUSH FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. PRESIDENT BUSH WAS QUITE SURE YEARS AGO. PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS BEEN THE PRESIDENT FOR...
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Casey, Libby - Host
CASUALTIES. 1000 HOST: HOW MUCH DO THESE NUMBERS OF FACT OR INSPIRE AT GENERAL ALLEN?
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Casey, Libby - Host
GUEST: I THINK I'VE SEEN HIM DO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WERE TERRIFIC IN TERMS OF GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT RECORDS THAT
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
OTHERS HAVE OVERLOOKED AND RECOMMEND THE PEOPLE, INCLUDING RECOMMENDING A CAPTAIN FOR THE MEDAL OF HONOR THAT WAS RICHLY DESERVED WHEN HE HAD BEEN OVERLOOKED...
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Casey, Libby - Host
DIFFERENT -- IS METRIC FOR SUCCESS -- HIS METRIC FOR SUCCESS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WHAT WILL BE THE SIGNS THAT IT WORKED? GUEST: IF IT DID NOT WORK,...
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
KABUL AND SUPPORT AL QAEDA THE WAY THE TALIBAN DID IN 2001. I WOULD GIVE THAT A LOW PROBABILITY. COULD YOU HAVE CONTINUED CHAOS -- BE LIKE COLOMBIA...
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Casey, Libby - Host
BEHIND. WALK US THROUGH THEAT. GUEST: WE STILL HAVE SOME TROOPS IN GERMANY. WE HAVE TROOPS IN JAPAN. WE HAVE EMBASSIES
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
IN 144 COUNTRIES. THE MEASURE CANNOT BE WHETHER OR NOT YOU STILL HAVE SOME TROOPS SOMEWHERE. A GLOBAL POWER WILL HAVE TROOPS IN DIFFERENT PLACES. QUESTION...
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Casey, Libby - Host
AFGHANISTAN. GUEST: WELL, WE HAVE NOT BEEN DEFEATED. WHEREVER WE GO, FIRST UNITS
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West, Bing - Assistant Secretary
THAT ARE PULLING OUT IS DOWN IN HELMAND. MARIE IS WHEN THERE AND SAID -- THE MARINES WENT IN THERE AND SAID NOBODY CAN DO ANYTHING WITH HELMAND. THEY...
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Casey, Libby - Host
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